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    It's quite a good strategy, especially as a way to get the site above, say, 100 pages quite quickly.

    Only problem is it's very easy and cheap to pay for loads of poor quality articles, but paying for or writing high quality articles to replace them is much slower and more expensive. So it's difficult to keep up - and you still end up with hundreds of poor articles.

    I should know, I've got plenty of poor pages earning almost nothing.

    I don't think it's easy to reach 'a few hundred a month' with a very poor site - although there is a technique to it that some people (Will etc) have mastered, never quite managed myself

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    i still like good articles though.. i have to share my site to some of my close friends and if they notice how poorly written this contents are, they'll surely laugh at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DickTracy View Post
    It's quite a good strategy, especially as a way to get the site above, say, 100 pages quite quickly.

    Only problem is it's very easy and cheap to pay for loads of poor quality articles, but paying for or writing high quality articles to replace them is much slower and more expensive. So it's difficult to keep up - and you still end up with hundreds of poor articles.

    I should know, I've got plenty of poor pages earning almost nothing.

    I don't think it's easy to reach 'a few hundred a month' with a very poor site - although there is a technique to it that some people (Will etc) have mastered, never quite managed myself
    That's a VERY good point about replacing poor quality articles taking time. I guess in that instance there also needs to be a strategy.

    Off the top of my head I'm guessing most experts would start with the articles that get the most traffic, but this might not be the best approach, why fix something that is already getting good traffic, and we assume generating good income. A change to these pages may not result in improved earnings, or it could result in a drop in earnings.

    An alternative would be to improve articles with the least amount of traffic, in the hope that they will start to earn good money. This has the advantage of increasing earnings for the site with very little risk of affecting existing earnings.

    Of course a combination of both approaches might be a better investment, so somehow a formula needs to be worked on. Perhaps I'm over thinking this but it seems a scientific approach is needed, after all, it is isn't by accident that big time AdSense earners make their money. It takes a lot of research, and a lot of thought to develop a top earning site, improving the site should be no different.

    I guess we need Will to fill in the blanks on his strategy then. I'd also be interested in getting the opinion of other AdSense earners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    Thanks for your thoughts. Following people like Will or Grizzly, they seem to use poor quality articles and a lot of SEO/backlinks, and they make an enormous amount of money.
    It's my top quality content which makes me the most money.

    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    His strategy of starting with poor quality articles and SEO, and then rewriting the content once he's making good money seems like a strategy we could all follow.
    Strategy seems like a big word for "fixing my own screwups."

    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    Is it a good strategy to use cheap writers/poor quality articles, or to spin articles in the initial stage of developing a site, let's say upto several hundred articles for the site? At the same time we'd submit articles to directories, make comments on blogs, and do anything we can to get backlinks, and then once earnings have reached a few hundred dollars per month, rewrite the articles so that the site becomes an authority.
    I'd aim for good articles. Then I'd replace the ones that didn't hit the quality targets.

    Quote Originally Posted by DickTracy View Post
    I don't think it's easy to reach 'a few hundred a month' with a very poor site - although there is a technique to it that some people (Will etc) have mastered, never quite managed myself
    It's easy, just spend lots of time and money on backlinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    Off the top of my head I'm guessing most experts would start with the articles that get the most traffic, but this might not be the best approach, why fix something that is already getting good traffic, and we assume generating good income. A change to these pages may not result in improved earnings, or it could result in a drop in earnings.
    Why? To get better earnings!

    You can monitor the changes and roll-back if necessary.

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    An alternative would be to improve articles with the least amount of traffic, in the hope that they will start to earn good money.
    Usually the reason that an article fails is poor keyword research. Rewriting won't fix that. Changing the article title sometimes will.

    I invest in the articles which are working best, the loser articles get ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    It's my top quality content which makes me the most money.
    That seems to fly in the face of a lot of experts who advise only providing enough content to get the surfer to your site, but not enough to answer their question, thus forcing them to click a link.

    So, if the experts agree that good quality articles are what drive high income, then I'd like to do a full loop-de-loop back to the beginning of this thread, and ask, backlinks aside because that really is a separate discussion, how many good quality articles are needed to generate around $500 per month from AdSense.

    I know this is subjective, and one good article may be enough, or perhaps 300 articles, but this discussion is about the strategies used by high earners to earn at least $500 per month from a single site. When AdSense high earners create a new site from their keyword research, each of you must have a goal for the number of articles needed to achieve earnings, so on average, how many articles do you include in a new site to reach earnings of around $500 per month?

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    To keep a long answer short, I'd say you'll need at least 100 quality articles from well researched keywords. (on average)

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    The best plan of action is to make a site that actually provides value to the user. That way, long term, you'll be around and your visitors will be happy. It doesn't matter so much how many articles you've written, so long as you're targeting the appropriate keywords. Sure, bigger sites often rank better because there are more linking opportunities, but nobody's gonna link to poorly written pages and you can only link whore yourself so much. I'd rather have 8 quality pages than 50 pages written by someone who's first language isn't English. In the end, your visitors will be happy and your bounce rates, time on site, inbound links etc. will be the better for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    That seems to fly in the face of a lot of experts who advise only providing enough content to get the surfer to your site, but not enough to answer their question, thus forcing them to click a link.
    I've never bought into that argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    I know this is subjective, and one good article may be enough, or perhaps 300 articles, but this discussion is about the strategies used by high earners to earn at least $500 per month from a single site. When AdSense high earners create a new site from their keyword research, each of you must have a goal for the number of articles needed to achieve earnings, so on average, how many articles do you include in a new site to reach earnings of around $500 per month?
    I concur with Shenron that 100 articles is a good target to start a medium site -- one where ranking for the domain name itself is not a major concern.

    But I have to keep circling back to keyword research as being far more important than the raw amount of content.

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    The best plan of action is to make a site that actually provides value to the user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    That seems to fly in the face of a lot of experts who advise only providing enough content to get the surfer to your site, but not enough to answer their question, thus forcing them to click a link.
    How is that profitable in the long run go ahead if you don't want returning visits

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