Net Builders SEO Contest

**Coastercraze** · 3 April, 2009, 05:50 AM

Wow I'm back to position 12th finally. I suspect Google's gonna keep bouncing me around back and forth for a while

**Lalucochin** · 3 April, 2009, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Coastercraze

Wow I'm back to position 12th finally. I suspect Google's gonna keep bouncing me around back and forth for a while

Must be the problem of the sandbox/trust box effect. I hope you can stay there. Best of Luck !!

**firetown** · 3 April, 2009, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by sulumits competitior

Must be the problem of the sandbox/trust box effect. I hope you can stay there. Best of Luck !!

I think with a brandnew term brandnew domains have a shot. There has to be a certain amount of searches performed on a keyterm per month to register it as sandboxable. This term does not apply. When you search ¨seo contests¨ however you can see that a few of the results from this contest do show, but it´s all older domain names, so there the sandbox would apply.

**Lalucochin** · 3 April, 2009, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by firetown

I think with a brandnew term brandnew domains have a shot. There has to be a certain amount of searches performed on a keyterm per month to register it as sandboxable. This term does not apply. When you search ¨seo contests¨ however you can see that a few of the results from this contest do show, but it´s all older domain names, so there the sandbox would apply.

Great input Mike , but I think sandbox effect will come into play as search volume increases. The first few entrants might have escaped from that .

**firetown** · 3 April, 2009, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by sulumits competitior

Great input Mike , but I think sandbox effect will come into play as search volume increases. The first few entrants might have escaped from that .

That can most definitely happen. I remember the last contest we were talking about that as well. Not sure what happened, but there is definitely a possibility that we see a shift at the end.

The sandbox effect can also be prevented if you have enough powerful links coming into your site.

**Lalucochin** · 3 April, 2009, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by firetown

That can most definitely happen. I remember the last contest we were talking about that as well. Not sure what happened, but there is definitely a possibility that we see a shift at the end.

The sandbox effect can also be prevented if you have enough powerful links coming into your site.

Yes, Links are always the kingdom while content is still the king. Just need a balance between them to rule the land of search engine.

**Shawn** · 3 April, 2009, 15:30 PM

The closest thing to a sandbox I have seen is Google not reporting anything on PR/backlings to a few sites using the DP keyword tool. But those same sites have no problem ranking.

Maybe that isn't a sandbox, but what do you call it?

**Lalucochin** · 3 April, 2009, 17:06 PM

I am now having a wired problem with my tnomeralc web design toys post shows a PR 1 ( was PR 0 earlier) but my homepage still shows PR 2 no difference in PR for homepage. Have anyone experienced similar situation. Can anyone explain me about this ?

**Shawn** · 3 April, 2009, 17:39 PM

Originally Posted by sulumits competitior

I am now having a wired problem with my tnomeralc web design toys post shows a PR 1 ( was PR 0 earlier) but my homepage still shows PR 2 no difference in PR for homepage. Have anyone experienced similar situation. Can anyone explain me about this ?

If it wired and you don't want it to be, just unplug it!

Oh, did you mean weird?
- You are getting links to an inside page, doesn't mean your homepage PR will increase, PR is page per page. Personally I have been ignoring PR for the most part - If I have a PR0 site and it ranks #1 who cares what the PR is. You see PR is just a "thermometer" for incoming links, it tells you something, but does not make you anything (unless you are one of those still trying to sell your PR...)

**ChillingBreeze** · 3 April, 2009, 17:55 PM

Ditto!

Most people do care about PR but many will not. What matters more is traffic and top rankings.

To ans your weird problem, some of my sites have got inner page PR when its homepage is unchanged. It is normal.

Originally Posted by Shawn

If it wired and you don't want it to be, just unplug it!

Oh, did you mean weird?
- You are getting links to an inside page, doesn't mean your homepage PR will increase, PR is page per page. Personally I have been ignoring PR for the most part - If I have a PR0 site and it ranks #1 who cares what the PR is. You see PR is just a "thermometer" for incoming links, it tells you something, but does not make you anything (unless you are one of those still trying to sell your PR...)