Thread: [QUESTION] The new marketplace rule

Originally Posted by Dondon

It would be great if there are samples of the 'illegal' stuff. What we can sell and what we cannot

If you are in the U.S., check the United States Code.

If you are outside of the U.S., also check the relevant laws in your country.

NetBuilders itself is required to operate by the laws of the country in which it is hosted.

The material here is to follow those laws. If NB is hosted in, say, the US, then the material on this site is to abide by US law. Whereas if it was hosted in say, Singapore, then the material on the site is to abide by Singapore law. You, however, as an individual, are bound by your own laws and international laws, as well.

Let's say that NB is hosted in the US. You live in Canada. You have to follow laws that apply to you - which would be United Nations regulations, International Agreements that involve your country, and Canadian law. You are also subject to US law. But, Will and the NB Staff don't need to allow you to exercise any rights or freedoms, such as the freedom of speech. You don't have that right on a forum. Anyway, let's say NB is hosted in a country where child pornography is LEGAL. If you post it, you don't violate their laws, but you violate the laws of your country. Therefore, you need to always follow your applicable laws, and be aware of those in the country which hosts the site because they may apply to you in certain situations as well. But now, for Will - he needs to know his laws, and the laws where the site is hosted, to a higher extent.

For example, here is a part of my Terms of Service on my forum:

7.Governing Jurisdiction of the Courts of California

Our website is operated and provided in the State of California. As such, we are subject to the laws of the State of California, and such laws will govern this Terms of Use, without giving effect to any choice of law rules. We make no representation that our website or other services are appropriate, legal or available for use in other locations. Accordingly, if you choose to access our site you agree to do so subject to the internal laws of the State of California.

8.Compliance with Laws.

Member assumes all knowledge of applicable law and is responsible for compliance with any such laws. Member may not use the Service in any way that violates applicable state, federal, or international laws, regulations or other government requirements. Member further agrees not to transmit any material that encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability or otherwise violate any applicable local, state, national, or international law or regulation.

So, to summarize - when it comes to what's illegal/legal here:
Whatever is illegal in the United States is illegal here.
Whatever is illegal in your country is illegal for you to do here. Both of these apply.

Originally Posted by bozonessinc

Ok, that makes sense. Except in the case of international law. Actually the Freedom Of Speech does apply through the usage of this forum, in fact I can't be sued if its about that because of the Charter Of Rights and Freedoms.

I really want Will's response for is what country is he basing the site in. So I not what laws are what?

International Law is law that applies to multiple countries - agreements made between countries for mutual benefit. Such as copyright law and other such regulations. They all to more than just one nation.

And no, the Freedom of Speech does not apply through the usage of any forum. You are protected by it - you can't be sued if you said something legitimately protected by it, assuming it fits within applicable law, but nobody needs to allow you to exercise that right. If Will makes a regulation that you can't talk about puppies, you can't talk about them. It doesn't matter if your rights say you can. Talking about them wouldn't be illegal, but he can ban you for it. Does this make sense?

And, I believe NB is in the US, since Will quoted the US Code.

Originally Posted by bozonessinc

I'm going to excercise my right to remain silent now..

Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense.

Originally Posted by Aziz

Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense.

*rough, masculine tone* There ain't no rights in these parts.

The server is in the U.S., so U.S. law applies. If you are in Canada, Canadian law also applies.

Wow people. This entire conversation is insipid. This thread shouldn't even exist. This shouldn't have to be stated as a forum rule. If you know it's illegal, keep it off the forum. It isn't rocket science.

If you aren't willing to do it in front of a policeman/government authority who would recognize it as illegal in your country, don't do it here.

Originally Posted by m42

Wow people. This entire conversation is insipid. This thread shouldn't even exist. This shouldn't have to be stated as a forum rule. If you know it's illegal, keep it off the forum. It isn't rocket science.

If you aren't willing to do it in front of a policeman/government authority who would recognize it as illegal in your country, don't do it here.

That's something I'm aware of, but I've seen a post (From our great admin I think) that we could sell/exchange accounts. That's why I started this thread. I'm pretty glad that I could read all opinions about this and it made me think

Originally Posted by m42

Wow people. This entire conversation is insipid. This thread shouldn't even exist. This shouldn't have to be stated as a forum rule. If you know it's illegal, keep it off the forum. It isn't rocket science.

If you aren't willing to do it in front of a policeman/government authority who would recognize it as illegal in your country, don't do it here.

It's almost impossible for the forum to know what is illegal in every country and jurisdiction. Even some posts in the general chat section may be illegal in countries like China and Iran.

In the US State and Local Laws also apply. For instance you would assume that marijuana or cannibis is illegal. But that is not the case. In some US States like California Medical Use of Marijuana – The important thing to note you can smoke medical marijuana.

Originally Posted by bogart

It's almost impossible for the forum to know what is illegal in every country and jurisdiction. Even some posts in the general chat section may be illegal in countries like China and Iran.

In the US State and Local Laws also apply. For instance you would assume that marijuana or cannibis is illegal. But that is not the case. In some US States like California Medical Use of Marijuana – The important thing to note you can smoke medical marijuana.

Exactly, I agree with this. A forum is for discussion, and people are just trying to ascertain what would be considered, since it differs from place to place. It's always good to over-explain than under-explain, especially when it comes to the law.