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    Quote Originally Posted by Sami4u View Post
    Would you go to this one?
    Probably not. I like to read concise material and fluffy titles generally lead to fluffy content.

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    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by rome9t9 View Post
    Are you talking about targeting a page for two keywords/phrases and putting both of them in the title, and optimizing the page for two keywords??
    Two, three, or more depending on the topic of your article.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    Probably not. I like to read concise material and fluffy titles generally lead to fluffy content.
    I guess that were we are different. If I was to build a chicken coop I would not search for "building a chicken coop" because of all the crap that is on page #1. I never do short searches, unless it is a celebrity name and the only sometimes. Maybe that why I can never seem to find anything using Google because most webmaster think alike. I gave you what I would be searching for.

    Super simple and easy instructions on how to build a red and green chicken coop from metal wood and chicken wire that can be made in a day.
    I would want dummy me (meaning simple) instruction on how to build a chicken coop from metal wood and chicken wire that could be built in a day.

    By searching this way I have eliminated what?

    Chicken coops made from steel.
    Chicken coops that are huge.
    Chicken coops that are completed to build.
    Chicken coops that are blue.
    Chicken coops that take more then one day to build.

    Buy searching "building a chicken coop" I would get all the above in results. You call that fluff sorry I disagree.

    In my way of thinking I was being very precise in what I was wanting in a chicken coop that I would be wanting to build.

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    Examples of my blog titles:

    Windows XP Downgrades Now Aavailable For The Life of Windows 7
    Make SSH Connections from the Droid Using ConnectBot
    What are Proxy Lists?

    I've always gone for both long and short. I mix it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sami4u View Post
    The Blog title length should be filled with keywords that are relevant to your post.i
    As long as the webmaster isn't just keyword stuffing.

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    In closing I feel that you will NOT get penalized by Google for the length of your title as long as Google thinks it's relevant.
    Probably true, but I think long-tail phrases are searched for less than short ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sami4u View Post
    I never do short searches
    That's you. Millions of people are lazy and do short searches all the time, but it's easier to do SEO for long phrases than short phrases. The short ones are usually more competitive.

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    Sami4U,
    Even if there is crap on page 1 for chicken coop, it doesnt stop the searchers from typing that phrase..

    If you want SEO traffic then you gotta write for KWs that get a decent search volume...and optimize your title for that... you have to give them the KW in the first 30-40 chars in title...

    In fact, in the SERPs the matching KWs are bolded... this naturally draws eyeballs...if your title doesnt have all the keywords in the first 65 chars then you will lose those eyeballs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sami4u View Post
    In my way of thinking I was being very precise in what I was wanting in a chicken coop that I would be wanting to build.
    What you need to remember is that Google analyzes each keyword separately and the results displayed will probably not be what you want anyway. Results may include "Building a Chicken Coop," which may somewhere talk about building a chicken coop using a red hammer and in fact discuss the construction of a purple chicken coop. Results may also include "How to Build a Chicken Coop," which may somewhere talk about why steel is better than chicken wire.

    I believe that Blikko will eventually provide a solution for people who like to make specific search queries. I don't believe that Google is currently capable of this and therefore, I would not currently, optimize my website in this way.

    Furthermore, as a website owner, you should be attempting to attract as many people as you can. By promoting really specific content, you are excluding those who are after something a) broader (me!) or b) different (the majority of people). You would be excluding people who did not want a red and green chicken coop. You would be excluding people who did not want a chicken coop made out of chicken wire or metal wood. You would be excluding people who did not want a small chicken coop. You would therefore be excluding more people than you would be attracting, unless these conditions are all customary (i.e. How to Break an Egg that is Currently in a Shell and Definitely has Egg on the Inside), in which case your end-user would probably question the authority that your resource carries.

    This being said, hard and fast rules cannot be given on what you should do. I would either present my raw keyword as a title, or give the end-user something that they would want to read (including the keyword) which still attracts a broad audience.

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    It is BLEKKO and not blikko.

    If you are searching and you want specific information, or a specific search phrase. then do this:
    Put your search between " "
    So "build a chicken coop in a day" would give you more direct searches than:
    build a chicken coop in a day

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    It is BLEKKO and not blikko.

    If you are searching and you want specific information, or a specific search phrase. then do this:
    Put your search between " "
    So "build a chicken coop in a day" would give you more direct searches than:
    build a chicken coop in a day
    I'm allowed to make a typo every once in a while, no?

    "Super simple and easy instructions on how to build a red and green chicken coop from metal wood and chicken wire that can be made in a day." - if you're applying this many conditions at once, with Google, what would you do?

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    Hi

    Quote Originally Posted by rome9t9 View Post
    In fact, in the SERPs the matching KWs are bolded... this naturally draws eyeballs...if your title doesnt have all the keywords in the first 65 chars then you will lose those eyeballs..
    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    This being said, hard and fast rules cannot be given on what you should do. I would either present my raw keyword as a title, or give the end-user something that they would want to read (including the keyword) which still attracts a broad audience.
    Guys your losing your own battle here.

    I started with this example from amazon

    Amazon.com: Fire Down Below: Steven Seagal, Kris Kristofferson, Marg Helgenberger, Stephen Lang, Brad Hunt, Harry Dean Stanton, Levon Helm, Mark Collie, Alex Harvey, Ed Bruce, Amelia Neighbors, Richard Masur, Jeb Stuart, Julius R. Nasso, Ronald G. Smith, William S. Gilmore, Philip Morton: Movies & TV"
    Following your way of thinking.

    The title would read something like this.

    yourdomain.com: Building a chicken coop: metal, wood, chicken wire, simple to do, easy instructions, how to, red, green, make in a day,


    All that was done here is remove "from" "and" "super"

    It is still longer them the 65 characters

    However I do not know if those three words will make a difference "from" "and" "super" will test that on my next site.

    I would prefer that my title reads as a sentence.

    Again In closing I feel that you will NOT get penalized by Google for the length of your title as long as Google thinks it's relevant.

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    Hi,

    After thought now wouldn't they get to your article even if they did all these short searches.

    how to build a chicken coop

    how to build a chicken coop out of wood

    how to build a chicken coop out of metal

    how to build a chicken coop out of chicken wire

    how to build a red chicken coop

    Building a chicken coop out in a day

    Simple plans to build a chicken coop

    And so on. All are relevant on the article that is on the site.

    And if dummy me was searching for "Super simple and easy instructions on how to build a red and green chicken coop from metal wood and chicken wire that can be made in a day."

    I should get to also.

    It don't make seance to me to take the time to write an article and not try to get people to it every way you can.

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    Hi,

    Second Another after thought Amazon and other sites are maximizing all possible ways that people could search for a topic and they are using long title to make that happen.

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