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    Quote Originally Posted by Glypus View Post
    There is nothing you can do in your specific case. Leave it and try to be happy that you are good enough to be worth imitating. That's the least you can do.

    Anyway, a few slightly offtopic thoughts

    Line : Capturing the essence and beauty of the flowers of Hawaii

    Thought 1: Beautiful is not an appropriate description for a perfume
    Thought 2: Capturing the essence and aroma of the flowers of Hawaii
    The phrase "Capturing the essence and beauty" is widely used. I even found a site using the phrase "capturing the essense and beauty of Islam".

    The thought 2: "Capturing the essence and aroma of the flowers of Hawaii" is a good suggestion.

    My thought on the subject is that any content posted on the internet has a half-life of a few years at best. It's then time to update and improve. This way #1) you are again back to 100% original copy and #2) Google likes fesh content.

    TopDogger made a good sugesstion in contacting the site owners and asking them to remove the content. I'm guessing that many of the site owners don't even know that someone lifted the phrases from your site.

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    Well guys it seems like there is nothing we can do about it, but we can exchange different points of view.

    I don't conspirate, that's facts that people use my work for their own gain.

    Take a moment to see how far it can go for a second:
    My site NE has contents A, then site B use my content, site C use the same content from site B, etc
    At the end thousand of sites use the same content.

    If one of these sites use duplicated content from NE and rank higher or better, I am screwed. That's what I am talking about.

    Google and other search engines want new, unique contents from your site, more contents you will create and more thiefs you will have if nothing is done in this direction.

    You can see descriptions and titles longer than what you can see on their snippets, if like mentionned before in this thread that the meta description for example has no weight in SEO, why a lot of webmasters write them longer than what they appear in the snippets or even browser sometimes?

    That's ironic when the main search engines said that sites need to be made for visitors not for search engines. Who can believe that a title or a description longer than the search engine can display are made for visitors. Most of the time if you pay attention, some sites don't even bother to make a sentence in their title or meta description, it is just a serie of repeated keywords, and they rank high in SERP. Where is the quality the search engines claim?

    Anyway, we can continue to talk about that if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    The phrase "Capturing the essence and beauty" is widely used. I even found a site using the phrase "capturing the essense and beauty of Islam".

    The thought 2: "Capturing the essence and aroma of the flowers of Hawaii" is a good suggestion.

    My thought on the subject is that any content posted on the internet has a half-life of a few years at best. It's then time to update and improve. This way #1) you are again back to 100% original copy and #2) Google likes fesh content.

    TopDogger made a good sugesstion in contacting the site owners and asking them to remove the content. I'm guessing that many of the site owners don't even know that someone lifted the phrases from your site.
    Capturing the essence and beauty of the flowers of Hawaii was just an example.

    TopDogger made a good suggestion but once you call the site owner, you catch another one, I mean there is no end and I don't want to waste my time on that, because it is hopeless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    Capturing the essence and beauty of the flowers of Hawaii was just an example.

    TopDogger made a good suggestion but once you call the site owner, you catch another one, I mean there is no end and I don't want to waste my time on that, because it is hopeless.
    Sending a email worded in a nice way won't take to much time. It's possible that in 50% of the cases the site owner doesn't even know that the content is being lifted from your site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    You can see descriptions and titles longer than what you can see on their snippets, if like mentionned before in this thread that the meta description for example has no weight in SEO, why a lot of webmasters write them longer than what they appear in the snippets or even browser sometimes?
    The description meta tag is spammed-oo\ut in many cases. That's probably the reason that Google stopped using the meta description tag as a ranking factor.

    Both the keyword and description meta tags are still useful for the site though. The keyword meta tag helps with adsense ad targeting. The description tag is useful for product descriptions. For articles it may be more useful to not have a description and let the snippets appear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    Sending a email worded in a nice way won't take to much time. It's possible that in 50% of the cases the site owner doesn't even know that the content is being lifted from your site.



    The description meta tag is spammed-oo\ut in many cases. That's probably the reason that Google stopped using the meta description tag as a ranking factor.

    Both the keyword and description meta tags are still useful for the site though. The keyword meta tag helps with adsense ad targeting. The description tag is useful for product descriptions. For articles it may be more useful to not have a description and let the snippets appear.
    Again Bogart, I will not take days to send 300 or 400 emails to sites owners that display my contents. This is just crazy. Then a few months later doing the same thing? No thanks

    That's why I mentionned that it is the task for the search engines to insure that their index stay clean and avoid billions duplicates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    Again Bogart, I will not take days to send 300 or 400 emails to sites owners that display my contents. This is just crazy. Then a few months later doing the same thing? No thanks

    That's why I mentionned that it is the task for the search engines to insure that their index stay clean and avoid billions duplicates.
    I didn't realize that there were so many sites. The effort to contact that many people would outweigh the percentage of people that repond to your request.

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    That's why I mentionned that it is the task for the search engines to insure that their index stay clean and avoid billions duplicates.
    A search engine cannot possibly remove every single piece of duplicate content, especially if it's just a few words or even a line or two long. This would be catastrophic! They need to focus their attention on people that blatantly copy entire sites, or at least large portions of them, rather than just a few phrases used as descriptions. I understand your feelings and I see why you're upset, but you need to acknowledge the fact that it isn't helping them in any way to have stolen these small pieces of your content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovich View Post
    A search engine cannot possibly remove every single piece of duplicate content, especially if it's just a few words or even a line or two long. This would be catastrophic! They need to focus their attention on people that blatantly copy entire sites, or at least large portions of them, rather than just a few phrases used as descriptions. I understand your feelings and I see why you're upset, but you need to acknowledge the fact that it isn't helping them in any way to have stolen these small pieces of your content.
    You need to acknowledge the fact that it isn't helping them in any way to have stolen these small pieces of your content.

    How do you know that?

    There are thousand of spammers using a few lines of stolen contents from the best sites relevant to their topic using the same keyword or same keyphrase. Then you have a page with around 800 words just enough to rank high.

    Little pieces stolen from here and there make a big powerful piece in SEO on a junk domain name ready to trash in case they got caught by search engines, and yes it is helping them (for a period of time).

    Have you ever seen pages made like these ranking high on search engines and cloacking to legitimate urls?

    They are made for manipulating search engines, with the accumulated little pieces of stolen contents.
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