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    Question Questions on PR/SEO/Backlinks

    Hey All!

    I have some questions I would like to ask, your opinion is very much appreciated!

    Question 1

    There is a domain name I would like to get, but it was already registered in 2008 and dropped in 2009. I would like to know how this can negatively affect my sites rankings or pr.

    In essence, my question can be asked like so; How would a dropped domain name perform in terms of SEO compared to a newly registered domain name (never dropped)?

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    I am in the process of buying some content websites with pagerank (PR1+). Once a domain looses its strong backlinks, wouldn't the pagerank drop? If so, How can we make sure that a website we buy, actually stays at a specific pagerank? (I know building quality niche backlinks is a solution, but I want to hear from you guys as well.)

    Thanks guys!

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    No one has an answer?? Doesn't have to be right or wrong..

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    It really depends on several factors, but ideally the domain should have backlinks already pointing to the domain.

    Generally speaking, when a domain name goes "pending delete", Google removes the domain from the index and/or zeros out the pagerank, and the link credit to that domain. Some domains will come back to their original state if you buy them and put content on them, yet others will not.

    Ideally, if you buy a domain and expect to get anything from it (pagerank, link juice, etc.), then the domain name should not get to "pending delete" status at all. You can buy those types of domains at expired domain auctions like godaddy.com, namejet.com, and snapnames.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5starpix View Post
    No one has an answer?? Doesn't have to be right or wrong..
    Hi, this is just my opinion, but:

    I have previously bought expired PR domains, and all has been fine!

    HOWEVER, I do always try to check the sites backlinks, to make sure they seem right for the pagerank that the site is claiming.

    Also, check there isn't a dodgy scammed pagerank (Valid PR checker tools) - also check cache:[site.com] in google. - Make sure it points to the same site.

    I also try to ensure I get content on the domain ASAP - and good, unique content, related to the websites previous usage (check archive.org's waybackwhen machine - Or search on the domain in Google, check what the backlinks anchor text is/was also).

    Then, try to build a few natural links from relevant sites/articles - nothing spammy at all if you can avoid it! - but ethical/natural...

    And, following those rules, I have seen some great results from buying and using relevant, dropped domains.


    Hope it helps! - I am new here (mainly a DPer) so glad to help out!!!

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    Thank You guys! You both have helped!

    By the way, mikeid22; Welcome to NB!

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    A1

    I guess there is no difference, I have bought domains that have been banned from Google and they get unbanned when I change the content and start building a website from scratch

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    Yes PR will drop if you lose the strong backlinks and visits nevertheless PR1 is an easy milestone.

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by ruben View Post
    A1

    I guess there is no difference, I have bought domains that have been banned from Google and they get unbanned when I change the content and start building a website from scratch

    A2

    Yes PR will drop if you lose the strong backlinks and visits nevertheless PR1 is an easy milestone.
    Yea, PR1 is nothing, but I am just worried about buying a PR4 or PR5. Imagine I buy it for like $150, and PR drops on next update . Anyways, thanks for the post

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5starpix View Post
    Yea, PR1 is nothing, but I am just worried about buying a PR4 or PR5. Imagine I buy it for like $150, and PR drops on next update . Anyways, thanks for the post
    Track the backlinks with google
    typing
    link:yoursite.com

    and check where are the backlinks coming from, if they are coming from link farms, hidden frames, offtopic websites then its not worth buying but if they come from articles, forum posts, etc its worth the time and money but still be careful and good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5starpix View Post
    How would a dropped domain name perform in terms of SEO compared to a newly registered domain name (never dropped)?
    I believe if a domain is dropped, and you buy it, Google considers this to be a new domain. i.e. you can be sandboxed and your official google domain age goes back to square one.
    Just my say, am not sure as to how far it is true.


    Quote Originally Posted by 5starpix View Post
    I am in the process of buying some content websites with pagerank (PR1+). Once a domain looses its strong backlinks, wouldn't the pagerank drop? If so, How can we make sure that a website we buy, actually stays at a specific pagerank? (I know building quality niche backlinks is a solution, but I want to hear from you guys as well.)

    Thanks guys!
    Pagerank is obtained mainly on 3 factors:
    1) Backlinks.
    2) Age.
    3) Pages within a high authoritative and High PR Homepage.
    All these are independent of each other. However if you are buying a domain which already has a PR, i'd suggest you go for the websites with a strong backlink count.
    Analyse the backlinks too, make sure they come from valid places.
    Check how many links have been bought by the current owner.
    How many links are from sites that belong to the current owner.
    How many links are from sites that belong to friends/affiliates of the current owner.

    After all this, just subtract the total number of links with the number of links that are expected to be removed.
    If the amount is quite satisfactory, i.e. if the previous guy has done serious SEO and has gained natural backlinks, you can go ahead with the deal else yo may want to think again as he is sure to take off the paid links and in the next PR update, your pagerank may drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5starpix View Post
    I am in the process of buying some content websites with pagerank (PR1+). Once a domain looses its strong backlinks, wouldn't the pagerank drop? If so, How can we make sure that a website we buy, actually stays at a specific pagerank? (I know building quality niche backlinks is a solution, but I want to hear from you guys as well.)
    I've purchased dropped domains with PR1/PR2 and the domains retained the Pagerank. I believe that a dropped domain with keep the original pagerank in so far as the domain retains its backlinks. Of course, you will loose all the deeplinks unless you figure out a way to replicate the sites page structure.

    There's really no guarantee of anything if you are buying a domain and using pagerank to place a value on it. It's too easy for someone to buy links or link in from their own site or friends. So in this kind of case, you aren't getting anything.
    Rather than worrying about the PageRank, you should analyze the backlinks, traffic and search rankings.

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