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    Quote Originally Posted by Keldorn View Post
    Yeah also the "Generator: Wordpress x.x" header is dead give away.
    You can remove the meta-tag for it, but wordpress is smart, if its not there then it will send it via a HTTP header instead. So you will have to find that code in the source code files and remove it. (If possible, it might be obfuscated with too much abstraction so you'll have a hard time tracking it down).
    I don't have an issue with Wordpress adding a counter, I am using their free software after all, but I do have an issue with using Wordpress if Google are going to discriminate against my site because they don't see it in the same way as a plain HTML site. If Google really are giving more weight to HTML sites then I want to know. In the same way, are Google giving more or less weight to sites constructed using Joomla vs Wordpress?

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    I personally believe that Google doesnt discriminate against Wordpress, static HTML or and any other CMS..it all boils down to OnSite and offsite seo..the five minute fame that a blog post gets is more because of its pings,RSS and other such small stuffs..but later on its the the content and SEO that matters..

    in the end, google wants to show relevant results to its visitors..

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    Go with Wordpress- no doubt. you have to think of later- when you'll want to change things/ your clients will want changes, and call you up endlessly on every little thing. once you have the choice between CMS or no CMS, i really don't see the problem...

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    For what it's worth, I recently converted one of my sites from "static" (well, hand-coded PHP and MySQL) to WordPress, by transforming its .php and .css files into a WordPress theme.

    The site looks pretty much exactly the same as it did before, but now it's all WordPress behind the scenes, which offers several benefits (update pinging, easy post editing, plugins, etc.).

    I'd been meaning to learn how to make WordPress themes for a while now, so it was a good exercise. I'll let you guys know if there are any negative consequences!

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    I still couldn't settle on wordpress or any cms. Call me stubborn, but I think the ingredient to success comes from making the web application yourself or with team of business partners. Only a few very rarely get lucky and get a big 2,000 Alexa website running a free script. Why? Becuase there premade scripts and anyone get them. Users look for unique websites to hang out in. Not clones. Thats exactly where I was going wrong these past 2 years i've been doing. I've following the "Crowd" that does this, so I'm getting now where. You guys are this "crowd" I'm referring too where you expect and rely free scripts that work for all your purposes but unwilling to learn the skills to create them yourself or modify them beyond their original features. If you keep this mentality you will get nowhere. Sorry just being brutally honest here. Will Spencer is an exception becuase got into web publishing before it was saturated. He ranks for things like "What is ram" for heck sakes. That page alone probably makes him 20 bucks a day something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keldorn View Post
    He ranks for things like "What is ram" for heck sakes. That page alone probably makes him 20 bucks a day something.
    Only about 15% of that, according to Google Analytics.

    But, that particular site doesn't use a CMS yet. It's built using shared HTML.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    Only about 15% of that, according to Google Analytics.

    But, that particular site doesn't use a CMS yet. It's built using shared HTML.

    Are you serious? I think a page like that would get all kinds of visitors. Its a good keyword.
    But I just want to point out getting positions like that aren't easy anymore. I'm guessing you got into publishing well before the onslaught came, so some of pages rank for good keywords like that. I bet your page is stuck there like stone.
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    Unless your site is less then 10 pages, and that is all it will ever be, you should use a content management system.

    If you are worried about the post going off the page too fast, you can create feed blocks and insert them at the top of the page. Create 2, 3 or 4 blocks, insert an RSS from a certain section, or based off certain keywords and put those blocks at the top of the page.

    Go to news.yahoo.com and take a look at how they have their feed blocks setup.

    Then add the yet another related post related post plugin.


    Quote Originally Posted by Keldorn View Post
    I still couldn't settle on wordpress or any cms. Call me stubborn, but I think the ingredient to success comes from making the web application yourself or with team of business partners. Only a few very rarely get lucky and get a big 2,000 Alexa website running a free script. Why? Becuase there premade scripts and anyone get them.
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    Your kidding right? Very few, are lucky to get to a big 2,000 alexa?

    For one thing alexa is spyware, and to even mention its name your promoting spyware.

    Lets take a look at what really big sites are using:

    Foxnews blog - is using wordpress
    Stanford - using Drupal
    Reuters - using Drupal
    CNN/CNNGO - using Drupal
    Rutgers - using Drupal
    Mattel - using Drupal
    Java.net - using Drupal
    Yahoo’s corporate blog - using wordpress
    PlayStation’s blog - wordpress
    Yahoo blogs - using wordpress
    Wall Street Journal Blog - using wordpress


    Let me see if I got this right, Fortune 500 Companies use Wordpress and Drupal, but somehow its not good enough for you??? Somehow I find that funny.

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    The example you show are sites that ride of previous successes it has nothing to with wordpress or drupal, for example Yahoo is a search engine , and CNN is from the television. Furthor more Drupal is more of a framework, so you have to know programming to use it properly. Myself wordpress and other cmss isn't good enough for me becuase I can code my own stuff. So I really don't need it and I dont see anything successful on the horizon using it.
    If you been struggling all this time holding down what I refer to as " 1 million alexa" websites. You should think more about what I said and what it really means. Because you will not reach the success of a 2,000 alexa website using some hand out scripts. You simple wont be able to retain your users. But you belive you can, just dont give up. But you can get tired come back and let know if you endeavor was successful.

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    Let me see if I got this right, Fortune 500 Companies use Wordpress and Drupal, but somehow its not good enough for you??? Somehow I find that funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keldorn View Post
    Do you own a website that ranks very good in Alexa?
    I do not promote spyware, so I do not check my spyware / alexa ranking. I "think" one of my sites ranks in alexa, but I hope that it's not.

    My traffic is directly measured, and one of my forums gets 140,000+ uniques and 3.7 - 3.8+ million page views monthly.

    You do not have to re-program anything to become popular. You just have to offer quality content.

    Its very possible to take a standard content management system and open a quality site. You do not have to redevelop or reprogram anything.

    A CMS is like the foundation of a house. People that visit the house see the walls, the pictures, the TV, the swimming pool - that is the content. The people do not see, or care about the foundation that was used to build the house.

    Anyone can take a cement truck and pour some concert on the ground. But you have to know what your doing to take that cement, wood, nails and build a house.

    the same thing goes for taking a CMS and building a quality site. You just have know how to put everything together and post quality content.

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