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Old 3 January, 2009, 09:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default So for how mnay of you, this equation, "outsource writers + adsense = $$$" working ?

I am not much into adsense but just wondering does building websites from the content written by outsourced writers is working ? What kind of ROI you people expect ?
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Old 3 January, 2009, 09:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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How do you mean?
Just copy/pasting other peoples' work to your sites?
If that.. no, not really...

If you mean, letting other people write for you.. than yes you can get money out of it...
It's the same like most does (Even Will...)

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Old 3 January, 2009, 13:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How do you mean?
Just copy/pasting other peoples' work to your sites?
If that.. no, not really...

If you mean, letting other people write for you.. than yes you can get money out of it...
It's the same like most does (Even Will...)

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I think I had not put the question properly, let me rephrase it

We all have limited time so we all can't sit and write articles, so we need articles. Now you pay money for those articles, so if you pay $2k for 500 articles, what kind of ROI you get on your websites ?
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Old 3 January, 2009, 13:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think I had not put the question properly, let me rephrase it

We all have limited time so we all can't sit and write articles, so we need articles. Now you pay money for those articles, so if you pay $2k for 500 articles, what kind of ROI you get on your websites ?
IMHO... After a long time, the ROI will become bigger (this probably was the same with tech-faq.. in the beginning, big investment.. but now big ROI...)

But whenever I will pay people to let them write articles.. I wouldn't let them write about email marketing, but about thinks I don't know a lot about...
So about health related things... and I mean.. things we normally don't write mostly pay much higher than our own content we know (as there are 99999 others about it mostly )

So there is big ROI if you take it at the right end...

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Old 3 January, 2009, 23:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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... does building websites from the content written by outsourced writers is working?
It can work, but it is certainly no panacea.

Working with outsourced writers requires a huge investment in quality control.

And, of course, you still have to promote the content.

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What kind of ROI you people expect?
RoI is a very difficult measure in that business model, because RoI requires you to define a time frame.

You spend money now and you make money over an indefinable time frame.

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After a long time, the ROI will become bigger (this probably was the same with tech-faq.. in the beginning, big investment.. but now big ROI...)
The Tech-FAQ was a bit of a different model. I wrote all but a few of the first 800 pages of the Tech FAQ myself. It's slow and it's hard, but it does wonders to ensure quality.

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But whenever I will pay people to let them write articles.. I wouldn't let them write about email marketing, but about thinks I don't know a lot about...
One trouble with that is that if the content is too far from your areas of expertise, you won't be able to judge the accuracy of the information presented.
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Old 4 January, 2009, 06:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I feel that the writer should know about writing content published for internet sites,he should not just write like a book,if the writer is well known in what he does,then it does work....yes it has worked for me and its still working for me!!
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Old 4 January, 2009, 06:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I've never had a great deal of success with AdSense so I can't really comment on the value of outsourcing articles for AdSense loaded pages, but I can tell you that when I write for clients I have to do the work myself, it is rare to find another writer with the same voice or standards of quality and research that I have. They do exist, but they also charge the same amount so it's not economic for me to outsource.

On the other hand, on a throw away page such as article submission or blogposts where the link is all you really care about, I'm usually very happy to use outsourced articles and frequently buy for a cent a word or less from other writers. Most of this stuff isn't even worth rewriting into my own work so it gets dumped somewhere that isn't critical.

BTW, on DP and other writers forums you see a lot of people advertising that they are native English speakers from the US, and this is supposed to some kind of quality assurance for the buyer. In my experience, a native speaker is no guarantee of good work, education standards in the English developed world differ so much that I often prefer people from Iran, Malaysia, Germany, Poland, or other developing nations, where a culture of taking pride in their education and standard of work is still evident.
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One trouble with that is that if the content is too far from your areas of expertise, you won't be able to judge the accuracy of the information presented.
Hehe, I know.. but why would I let a person write about something I can write?
Than it's waste of money for me...

Maybe for others who earn good money already than it's fine...

But for me... every dollar counts so...

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We all have limited time so we all can't sit and write articles, so we need articles. Now you pay money for those articles, so if you pay $2k for 500 articles, what kind of ROI you get on your websites ?
Too many things to consider here, so hard to estimate, but I aim to get my money's worth on articles within a couple months to half year. Of course if you have a popular site and put the new articles in front it can take you just a couple hours to make the $4 back
There is also the time and money investment in keyword research and SEO stuff to take into account
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It works quite well.
I don't write articles for myself and have a lot of sites full of content, at the end of the day I can't complain, I expect every article to be paid on average after 12 months, though, and as Michael said, if you have a popular website you can get $10 from an article in minutes, so...
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