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    What happens to Autoblogs if they don't limit the post count?

    Say you are running WP Robot and leave it running for a year or so, what are the consequences? Like you may end up with 1000's of posts to your blog.

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    Nothing really.
    Search engines will probably index all those thousands of posts.

    I ran a couple years back a few auto blogs.
    Every day, 24/7, never stopping....
    Each would get about 50 posts....

    Sold them because they all hit pr4 to pr6.

    Don't know how google would treat them now.

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    I never ran an autoblog, but I watched several. For a long time they could stay ahead of Google penalties if they added enough posts every day. That is because the duplicate content filter was run separate from the ranking algorithms, so there was always a lag of weeks or months before a post was flagged for duplicate content. Continually adding new content kept the sites ahead of the wave.

    From what I have seen in the post-Panda environment, once a site reaches an unknown threshold number of infractions, it no longer ranks well and Google will eventually de-index the site.
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    An autoblog can be free of infractions where the content is ok to syndicate.

    But it seems crazy to not delete older posts to contain the size of the blog. So I coded a simple plugin to erase older posts for my own needs. I think that the fresher posts will be more beneficial than those stagnant posts from ages ago.

    And, the traffic may not be that different between a 100 post blog and a 1000 post blog in my limited experience.

    Now I am manually posting thin content (+ video) daily to a new blog, and it briefly hit #1 on G for it's keyword ahead of competing sites. So I am the robot in this case aiming to build the blog up to 100's of posts. And I will build some links to it and post the occasional meaty post there to try and solidify it's authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy101 View Post
    An autoblog can be free of infractions where the content is ok to syndicate.
    Not necessarily true. This is one of the myths or misconceptions created by people who run or sell autoblogs. According to a statement from Matt Cutts that was made several years ago, the way that they tell if an article is syndicated is with lots of links back to the original article from the syndicated copies. Theoretically, that should get a site off the hook for a duplicate content violation, but the overwhelming number of people using syndicated content fail to do that. He also said that this is the method that they use to tell which article is the original. The article with the most backlinks wins, which is a flawed way to do this. I have seen original articles that were penalized and lost their rankings because a stronger site stole the article.

    1) Search engines have no idea if an article is okay to syndicate.

    2) Google's Panda wiped out tons of sites that were using eZineArticles content.

    3) I have not seen any autoblog that was free of penalties for at least several years. The first sign is the lack of PageRank on inner pages, just like most of the crappy directories out there. The second sign is the lack of ability for articles to rank well over time. They may initially rank well, but once they get flagged by the duplicate content filters, now called Panda, the duplicate articles will drop like a rock in the search results.

    4) I know several other SEOs who ran tests using autoblogs and they all failed over time. They could not keep them going for the long run. Will Spencer was running several autoblogs at one time and they were de-indexed. Will is a pretty sharp guy when it comes to understanding search engines. He has posts in NB regarding the problems he experienced with autoblogs. I think his posts are at least a couple of years old by now.

    Andy, I think your theory about deleting older content and keeping the syndicated content fresh may work. It is line with what I have witnessed with older duplicate content posts getting penalized. It will also help to continue to write your own articles and add those to the mix.

    I have two clients who have blogs attached to their sites. Against my advice, they both bought into the syndicated content story and have been paying another company to add daily syndicated articles to the blog section in their sites. The company adding the articles claims that they are safe because they spin the content and link back to the original. None of those articles has ever showed up in search results. One of the sites was recently trashed by Google. I've warned the other client repeatedly, but he is not listening. He still thinks that more content is good, regardless of the originality or quality. I expect to see his site and all of his top rankings tank almost any time now. Everything with Google is random. A site can be in violation of something for a long time before getting wacked by Google.
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    The idea of spinning other people's content and linking back to the original is a crazy idea I think. That would be such an easy way to advertise your blog as a splog.

    When I was talking about content that is ok to syndicate I was meaning articles from sites that say it is ok to do so (even though it may be duplicate content), videos that you can embed in your web pages, widgets (for weather, stock prices, news) etc. I am dead against harvesting blog feeds from bloggers and republishing their full posts.

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    Search engines will probably index all those thousands of posts.
    Actually, most likely not. If it's autoblogged, most likely Google will not end up indexing it. They're getting better and better at detecting duplicate content and low-quality content, especially since Google Panda came into play.
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    Based on my experience, don't try to post using auto blog. This is will waste your time because your blog will be deindex by search engine such as Google. I have try create a blog using autoblog in WP robot, and within one weeks, my blog go deindex. Manually is the best way and safe your blog for long term.

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    My auto-blogging idea is only semi-relevant, but I miss not posting here as often as I used to, so here goes. I had a plan a couple of years back which I never got around to trying. It was going to hybrid blogging with auto-blogging. The content would be original, but pre-written. The idea being to write a lot of content ahead of time so you don't have to later. This idea does not involve collecting or spinning content from other sources. Instead of trying to save time by essentially stealing content, the idea is to trade-off an equal amount of time. Spending 16 hours in one week blogging articles for storage could cover months worth of auto-posts and save time in the future.

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    That is not really auto-blogging when you spend the time writing content. You can easily schedule articles to appear in the future in WordPress.

    There may be some real benefit to regularly posting articles using that method, rather than coming back to a site every 2 or 3 months and writing a bunch of articles, which is what I tend to do.
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