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    Quote Originally Posted by TinaGolden View Post
    The only sites I've heard of getting hit from May Day is the sites with only 5-10 pages of content designed to promote a product. Real sites with a lot of content are doing better than ever or saw very little change.
    MayDay didn't touch sites with 5-10 pages. MayDay hit major retailers with tens and hundreds of thousands of indexed pages very hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinaGolden View Post
    So if many sites disappear (which I don't agree with), then many more will pop up and the outsourcers will still be getting the business.

    I believe that the changes in the algorithm will be valuable to the searcher and the smart marketers are realizing this. They want the most valuable sites at the top and eventually that's what you'll find.

    The only sites I've heard of getting hit from May Day is the sites with only 5-10 pages of content designed to promote a product. Real sites with a lot of content are doing better than ever or saw very little change.

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    If sites dissappear it means that is the law of the market, and I don't think anybody can do anything about that.

    Algorithm changes affect each time legitimate websites more or less. Don't think that a new algorithm change is clean and perfect, because in fact it is not.

    Algorithm change is a manipulation of data for returned queries, period!

    Spammers are still up and running, copyright infrigments are still there, etc

    The ironic "may day" update has destroyed much more than it was supposed to improve for websites and particularly small and medium e-commerce, affiliate sites, and many others. The update favorized big brands, and big marketers sites, what a neutrality joke!!!!!

    Searchers do not have a better quality returned queries at all, that's a myth that Google try to sell.

    Perhaps you should take a look at this link and you will discover that Google screwed up many webmasters: Google MAYDAY Update - SERP Changes May 2010
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    I know that it shook things up and I know that it affected big ecommerce sites. I happen to think that the shopping sites shouldn't be at the top of the SERPs just because they happen to sell an item. I believe that spot should go to the site with the most valuable content, in an ideal world.

    But the algorithm is constantly changing so we have to change with it, plain and simple. It won't end the world and it won't change the face of the internet as we know it.

    Also, business owners have a choice to rely on Google or not. If their business depends on Google, there is something seriously wrong with the business. You should never be at the mercy of another entity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinaGolden View Post
    I know that it shook things up and I know that it affected big ecommerce sites. I happen to think that the shopping sites shouldn't be at the top of the SERPs just because they happen to sell an item. I believe that spot should go to the site with the most valuable content, in an ideal world.
    Why do you think that e-commerce shouldn't be at the top SERPS? They are like any other sites.

    Many e-commerce sites provide high quality informative contents, well for those who care about their visitors. Some huge sites will not bother taking time to write contents, and will only use stuffing keyword method or fake comments reviews. Have you ever seen employment ads recruiting people working from home to make big money? There you go, I bet these marketing companies are not working for small businesses, but rather huge corporations ourtsourcing this kind of jobs.

    But the algorithm is constantly changing so we have to change with it, plain and simple. It won't end the world and it won't change the face of the internet as we know it.
    Well that's not entirely true, look how Google is trying to deal with Verizon and the way internet should work for them, plenty explanatory.

    Also, business owners have a choice to rely on Google or not. If their business depends on Google, there is something seriously wrong with the business. You should never be at the mercy of another entity.

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    That's Google propaganda, webmasters never asked to be listed in search engines, the search engines crawl the net and take what they want for their own interest, in counterpart they send traffic and potential customers.

    I don't think businesses depends on Google, but they developped a pretty damn network that generate billions of $ Seriously wrong? Well see all businesses relying on Google Adwords...Why do you think Amazon. Facebook Google, Yahoo, MSN, etc build advertising network?

    Companies invest in advertising compaigns where they get the most exposure, it doesn't mean that only one will be the main source.

    Look the way marketers work, they just follow the spots where people are the most, they don't rely on one entity, so the businesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinaGolden View Post
    I happen to think that the shopping sites shouldn't be at the top of the SERPs just because they happen to sell an item. I believe that spot should go to the site with the most valuable content, in an ideal world.
    There are three types of searches:

    • Informational
    • Navigational
    • Transactional

    For transactional searches, shopping sites appear to be the right sites to put at the top of the SERPS.

    Read more in Determining the informational, navigational, and transactional intent of Web queries.
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    Will, I understand and that's very true. It's just that Google isn't all that good at distinguishing the difference between transactional and informational searches...lol. As someone who does a TON of research online, I would love to not see tons of shopping sites at the top when I'm researching.

    I'm not even sure if that's possible, of course.

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    IT services providers are also actively reinventing themselves for the cloud revolution, banking on partnerships and customer understanding to emerge victorious.


    Rohit Gandhi, Mahindra Satyam's Asia-Pacific head, said in an e-mail that the company and its parent Tech Mahindra are "evaluating the market very seriously" and have dedicated teams to work on cloud-related offerings.


    "There is still a lot of debate on the topic of public versus private clouds and enterprise customers have a lot of complex questions to be answered before they walk the full route," Gandhi noted.


    "It is early to say whether size is a liability and whether tier-one players like Mahindra Satyam will lose their competitiveness because of emergence of new players in the cloud," he said, adding that the Indian player has identified innovation, talent, brand and balance sheet as the four critical success factors to succeed in the new outsourcing era.

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    I don't think so. My belief has always been, whether a company or service providers survive the onslaught is actually on how they adapt and change their business strategies. It's how everyone adapt to changes. We cannot expect good things to remain the same forever. I hope I've made my point.
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