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    Does Nativity of the writer really matter?

    I see a lot of people asking for native american speaking writers, does it really matter where the writer is from? I dont see any difference between the content quality, all that matters is how good the writer is
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendricius View Post
    I see a lot of people asking for native american speaking writers, does it really matter where the writer is from? I dont see any difference between the content quality, all that matters is how good the writer is
    Most people see this as a filter,that way they can sort out most of the lousy writers that think they can make some cash with writing but don't even have good English grammar. Honestly, I don't think it matters, I am not a good writer, neither am I a native English speaker,but I manage to navigate my way around the web just as (probably better) most native Americans/Britons would. The important thing here is perfect grammar, vocabulary, spelling and if you are hoping to be a good writer you should have read at least a few literature classics. Of course it all comes down to this: either you have talent for writing or you don't. Everyone can become a decent rewriter or write content for nice sites, thats not hard to do, but to be a really good writer you do need talent, because this isn't something you can just learn, it requires creativity and creativity is a ability that you can't really influence when you are grown up, because it forms depending on a lot of factors from your youth like: environment, education, influences (TV, books, idols etc.). As a ability itself writing cant be learned, it's like playing a instrument, of course, with enough practice anyone can learn how to play even the hardest songs, but to be a real musician you have to be able to your own write music, and that is another thing,you can't really learn. Back on topic, while it may not matter for niche content it certainly matters for a professional writer, because a English environment helps to form certain abilities a writer needs. So much from me, greetings from Bosnia.

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    A native English-speaking writer is most likely to have the firmest grasp on the language with the best abilities in spelling and grammar. When people buy content, they want quality, and someone who knows the language well is often going to be able to provide that quality. Now, don't get me wrong - I've received great content from some non-native English speaking writers... but that is rare. As Toni mentioned above, a lot of foreigners with poor English skills think they can make a quick buck writing crap articles.

    I also don't want to generalize however. There are native English speaking writers who provide poor quality goods, and non-native writers who provide great quality. Ultimately, it depends upon the person and their individual skills. Selecting a specific nationality is pretty much a nice filter and a starting point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovich View Post
    A native English-speaking writer is most likely to have the firmest grasp on the language with the best abilities in spelling and grammar. When people buy content, they want quality, and someone who knows the language well is often going to be able to provide that quality. Now, don't get me wrong - I've received great content from some non-native English speaking writers... but that is rare. As Toni mentioned above, a lot of foreigners with poor English skills think they can make a quick buck writing crap articles.

    I also don't want to generalize however. There are native English speaking writers who provide poor quality goods, and non-native writers who provide great quality. Ultimately, it depends upon the person and their individual skills. Selecting a specific nationality is pretty much a nice filter and a starting point.
    It is a good filter, but many people look for foreign writers because of the low prices, but finding a cheap and good writer is always one of those needle in hay scenarios.
    In the end it all comes down to this, writing content for niche sites isn't hard and anyone with good grammar, vocabulary, spelling and the ability to do research online can do it, its a question of "want" I tried article writing myself for a while, for me the burnout was huge and the profits low, so I decided that my time was better spent on developing my internet marketing skills.

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    It is a good filter, but many people look for foreign writers because of the low prices, but finding a cheap and good writer is always one of those needle in hay scenarios.
    This is the problem I am currently facing. I am trying to find foreign writers with cheap rates - but ones who can write quality content. Very difficult to find!

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    In the past I purchased quite a lot of English language content from non-USA writers. I found that I always had to re-write the articles to correct numerous grammatical errors and misuse of words and punctuation. These days, I don't purchase very much content from non-USA writers.

    I used to work for a company that sold products in 160 countries. We once hired a translation company to write several articles for us in German. They were supposedly written by Americans who spoke fluent German and had lived in Germany for many years. When we sent them to our German office for approval, they rejected them because they told us that Germans do not write that way.

    It depends upon what you are doing, but if you want content that speaks well to native speakers of a language, you are probably best using native speakers to do the writing. That will probably cost more but can save time.
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    I have hired some English writers that provided poor contents, and I think that's extremely difficult when you need great contents to evaluate the work provided when you are not an English native. At that time my wife which is American did have time to check what they send me.

    I have also hired many foreign writers, some provided low quality, so low that my wife couldn't fix the contents.

    Now I found a great foreign writer which provide some terrific work and my wife can easly proofread the work and don't spend a lot time to correct in perfect English.

    Since 5 years we are running our e-commerce which use a lot of contents all the time, I can tell you that a English writer will not provide necessarly a great job.

    I am not that great in English as I am a French native, that's why I prefer to pay a talented writer.
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    There are plenty of native English writers out there that are terrible, but it seems like foreign writers have the most problems associated with them. For the most part, their spelling and grammar is atrocious, at best. Even if your writer lives in a country that speaks English, chances are they don't have the same nuances as "American English". After all, there are even small differences in the way Americans speak vs. the way people in Great Britain speak.

    You don't want your content to come across as awkward in any way, shape, or form because it makes the reader uncomfortable. If a reader is uncomfortable, they will go elsewhere. Period.

    The whole point of outsourcing your writing is to pay a professional for their expertise. In the meantime, you can take the time you would have spent writing, and focus on other areas. If you have to spend a great deal of time cleaning up after your writer, you've wasted your time and your money.
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    Regardless of origin, the majority of self-proclaimed "writers" I've encountered are simply subpar. This also holds true for coders, marketers, and a slew of other professions. I'm just happy when I find competent workers! ;p

    People will say or do whatever is necessary in order to eat. Populations are booming and the competition is fierce.

    I don't believe the author's origin should matter. The quality of the product should. Employers and freelancers seeking cheaper labor have developed a stigma toward certain ethnic groups that are notorious for producing low quality writing samples. Particularly, Indians with little to no grasp of the English language. This has caused some Indians to advertise under assumed names and locations in attempts to circumvent these stigmas, which in turn has further frustrated employers who have to weed through dozens of low quality writing samples despite their filters.

    I think the bigger questions are: Does it matter to you? Should a laborer's origins be the employer's prerogative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by m42 View Post
    Regardless of origin, the majority of self-proclaimed "writers" I've encountered are simply subpar. This also holds true for coders, marketers, and a slew of other professions. I'm just happy when I find competent workers! ;p

    People will say or do whatever is necessary in order to eat. Populations are booming and the competition is fierce.

    I don't believe the author's origin should matter. The quality of the product should. Employers and freelancers seeking cheaper labor have developed a stigma toward certain ethnic groups that are notorious for producing low quality writing samples. Particularly, Indians with little to no grasp of the English language. This has caused some Indians to advertise under assumed names and locations in attempts to circumvent these stigmas, which in turn has further frustrated employers who have to weed through dozens of low quality writing samples despite their filters.

    I think the bigger questions are: Does it matter to you? Should a laborers origins be the employers prerogative?
    We are living in the age of internationalism, we as early adopters should keep an open mind towards everything, the problem isn't just with writers, most marketers need to confess to themselves that they expect quality content for $1/100 words.
    It just won't happen, throwing up an article of 300 words isn't that hard and $3 for that is fair, but you can't expect enjoyable content , its readable but nothing more either. The problem emerges when needing a "medium" writer, like you are willing to pay $3/100 words and of course expect a good article, but the problem is that there isn't a big difference in the PRICE:QUALITY ration, meaning even if you pay 3 times more, the quality wont be much better.

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