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    A few years ago I was told that was the dir to be listed in... I tried and of course never got any of my sites approved. But who cares really because after doing some digging I discovered it is no better than any other link...

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    The Tech-FAQ has an Alexa of 4,502 and it's not good enough to be listed in DMOZ. I think their criteria are a bit wacky.
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    The sad thing is that they actually don't have a criteria. It all depends on the editor -- if he's in the mood, he'll add your site. Otherwise, you'll never get listed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    The Tech-FAQ has an Alexa of 4,502 and it's not good enough to be listed in DMOZ. I think their criteria are a bit wacky.

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    The only thing good about DMOZ is that a lot of other directories scrap it for their links, which in turn gives you more back links. However, if you don't get accepted don't sweat it and opt for a few other human edited directories such as Yahoo directory and a few others.
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    I agree

    I bought a DMOZ listed url about 6 months after I bought it it was removed from DMOZ and my results improved LOL

    Does Google pentilize DMOZ listing?
    I don't think so I think you get penilized by all the DMOZ scrappers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Sheley View Post
    I've never had a problem getting my blogs or forums listed in dmoz, maybe I just picked the lucky categories
    Ditto.


    DMOZ isn't worth much these days (from what I read and hear), but to be fair, most of the submissions aren't processed because either 1) it isn't done properly, 2) a single site is submitted multiple times (NEVER submit more than once, or you will never be listed), or 3) you got unlucky and have an unmoderated category.
    Most of the time it's either #1 or #2 though.

    I've never had any issues getting my sites listed.

    My advice is just to "set it and forget it". (Submit it and don't worry anymore).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    I've bought some DMOZ listed sites this year and the DMOZ listings don't appear to be doing those sites any good in terms of either direct referrals or improved SERPS.
    Which is something that I never truly understood considering that Google Directory features the results. Yet Yahoo! Directory seems to do quite well when it comes to giving websites listed direct traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Ditto.


    DMOZ isn't worth much these days (from what I read and hear), but to be fair, most of the submissions aren't processed because either 1) it isn't done properly, 2) a single site is submitted multiple times (NEVER submit more than once, or you will never be listed), or 3) you got unlucky and have an unmoderated category.
    Most of the time it's either #1 or #2 though.

    I've never had any issues getting my sites listed.

    My advice is just to "set it and forget it". (Submit it and don't worry anymore).
    As a DMOZ editor I am not interested in what benefit a listing in DMOZ might or might not give to a site. But the information here about why a site might not be listed is mostly just not correct.

    First we are not a listing service, so we do not set out as editors to see how many sites we can list from the suggestions pool during the time we freely give to editing. Our task is to build categories for the end user and an editor can use any resource they please. One of those resources is the suggestions pool.

    So a site in the suggestions pool has to wait for an editor to chose to build that category and use the suggestions pool. In some areas most sites will be listable but in some areas few sites will be listable. Remember we look for unique content, style, pr or fantasic built sites means nothing to us.

    We like sites to be submitted to the correct category, that means if an editor looks at the site for a possible listing and then finds it is suggested to the wrong category, the editor will send it to the correct category and so it waits again. Suggeesting sites over and over to the same or different categories can get the site seen as spam and banned, but not for a couple of suggestions. Trouble is the suggestions pool can be edited by date order, so the editor working with the pool looks at the sites which have waited longest. Second submissions of sites overwrites the first and gives the later date, so there is a good chance that it will be looked at later than it would have been without the second offering.

    NO category is without an editor. Editors can edit every category below where their name is at the foot of the page, we also have about 200 editors who can edit anywhere, I am one of them. So seeing a category without a name does not mean without an editor and seeing one with a name does not mean it will get looked at quickly. Some editors have categories named to them for ease of access when they get round to working there, that can be months and some categories have named editors who do minimum edits of 1 every 4 months. So there is no telling where an editor will or will not work so there is no telling how long it will take to get a site reviewed for possible lisying.

    Many people believe that we have rejected their suggestion because it does not get into the directory. The chances are that it site in the suggestions pool and has not been looked at, so it is not rejected it waits and if an editor working in that category chooses to use the suggestions it will get reviewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymously View Post
    As a DMOZ editor I am not interested in what benefit a listing in DMOZ might or might not give to a site.
    The trouble with that attitude is this: DMOZ has no other value.

    Seriously, very very close to no one uses the DMOZ listings to find anything.

    The listing tend to be out of date or purely nepotistic. Link juice is the only value that DMOZ has.

    If you are not interested in that value, there is nothing left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    The trouble with that attitude is this: DMOZ has no other value.

    Seriously, very very close to no one uses the DMOZ listings to find anything.

    The listing tend to be out of date or purely nepotistic. Link juice is the only value that DMOZ has.

    If you are not interested in that value, there is nothing left.
    Sorry that just is not true.

    I have a hobby, I collect web sites, collate and organise them, I find it a fascinating hobby, I spend hours doing what I enjoy. What interest do I have in if that gives any value to the links that I collect.

    Anyone collect stamps, do you collect them because you give value to the person who printed the stamp? Neither do I worry about any value a listing in DMOZ might or might not give to a web site. I collect for those who want collected sites. Do I know how much that is used? NO. But I did some research the other day and the only source I knew that would list similar sites for me was DMOZ, so I used someones else's work. It was invaluable.

    Strange too that hundreds of sites still want to use us on their site, if we are of no value why do they do that? Incidentally ofcourse Google is one of them. Am I concerned if 100's or no one uses us on their site? No.

    Link juice may be the only value to you, but it has absolutely zero value to me. And can you show me the survey you did on our 5 million sites to show that lets say 3 million is what one would call majority are out of date? Just point me to 1 million of them for the time being, I will settle for that. No this is the usual DMOZ chuck stones no proof retoric.

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