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    To be for the people, it must be by the people

    In 2005, before the European referundum, while teaching economics and law, Etienne Chouard looked closely to the draft version of the European Constitution. What he discovered changed him forever. He woke up, policatilly. Since then, and independently from any political organizations, he warns us against our apathy, denounces our responsibility and wants to restore the true meaning of democracy. His motto : a Constitution written by citizens and representatives selected by sortition.

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    If you don't know yet Professor Etienne Chouard, it is an opportunity to listen to him.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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    RE: "he warns us against our apathy"

    He's way late. The public is jointly eating Valium for breakfast. No abuse of authority or position is inexcusable.

    These days the only way to get anyone truly irate is to fail to clap loudly at the sight of a gay kiss, refuse to berate the right wing for a fictitious "war on women"... or dare to suggest our president isn't screwing us royally "for the sake of the children".
    -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. --

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    Quote Originally Posted by robjones View Post
    RE: "he warns us against our apathy"

    He's way late. The public is jointly eating Valium for breakfast. No abuse of authority or position is inexcusable.

    These days the only way to get anyone truly irate is to fail to clap loudly at the sight of a gay kiss, refuse to berate the right wing for a fictitious "war on women"... or dare to suggest our president isn't screwing us royally "for the sake of the children".
    I have followed what Etienne said for years along with others intellectuals siding with the people. The problem is that any system served very well the rich and powerful (1%), and when you study them closely, these people are tyrannical in their philosophies, and like Etienne said, these rich and powerful are mentally ill.

    Personally, I am astonished to find out that behind whatever people call democracy or else, the main structure behind the surface of the system is feudalism in its core.

    In fact, the French Revolution didn't unchained the people from inequality, because the house of masters changed (royalists vs aristocracy, now they are united because of same interests), but not their philosophies to enslave the people for their own benefits.

    To get back to the main subject, Etienne is right, the elite write a constitution in the name of people, but the language is still lawmakers language that most people do not understand, so are the laws they are writing every years. The truth is that people will need one or many counsels to decrypt the law. My point is that the way laws are written by the elite, may give them an advantage when it is in their interests. He also said that handling the power for a long time by the same people will inexorably bring power abuses.

    Looking at the definition of Polyarchy: "In modern political science, the term polyarchy (Greek: poly "many", arkhe "rule") was used by Robert Dahl to describe a form of government in which power is invested in multiple people. It takes form of neither dictatorship nor democracy. This form of government was first implemented in the United States and France and was gradually adopted by many other countries".

    The democracy in our countries is just another political illusion given to the people.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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    True.
    Main stream media will not say or do or present anything that is: anti-obama, anti-government, anti-laws, etc.
    But they will jump all over anyone who dares say or do anything against: obama, government, gays/lesbians, hillary, and so forth.
    Or as Rush said once:
    Time for real patriots to just make sure the main stream media talks about them constantly, even if it is a biased, liberal talk.
    Eventually, more and more people see this crap on main stream media, they will go searching for the real truth.

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