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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by firetown View Post
    I bet. My daughter is 3 years younger than you and everytime I see her she says "Geesh, you are STILL smoking?"
    Mum's quit for about a year. That "experiment" is no longer...

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    Mum's quit for about a year. That "experiment" is no longer...
    Dang man, what caused the brilliant move to pick it back up?
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  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by firetown View Post
    Dang man, what caused the brilliant move to pick it back up?
    A bad choice.

    My dad also promised to quit smoking if I managed to knock the ciggy packet off (on my first time ever usin' a bb-gun) the deck. I positioned it up, as best as I could, and bang -- knocked it clean off. I was 7. I'm 13 -- he smokes. He's never stopped. Apparently, from 2nd Jan onwards, he's going to be a non-smoker.

  4. Nicotine is super-addictive, compared to say... cocaine or heroin. It really is difficult for people to quit once they smoke more than a few cigarettes a day.
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  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    Nicotine is super-addictive, compared to say... cocaine or heroin.
    You are correct that nicotine is addictive, but compared to heroin?

    Heroin is one of the most addictive drugs. A drug like nicotine can be kicked if someone puts their mind to it; it's not easy, but it can be done, and last. Heroin addiction usually requires intervention.

    You started off with a good point, but I think you should have chosen a different comparison.

  6. #16
    I have tried heroin once, like 20 years ago, so no clue as tohow addictive it is. But I can guarantee you that part of this is also that everywhere you go, it's very quick and easy to buy smokes. I recall so many times being at the cash register, not wanting to buy cigarettes but right before it came time to hand my ccard I was like "Umm, add a packof Marlboro lights to it".
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Menard View Post
    You are correct that nicotine is addictive, but compared to heroin?
    Tobacco appears to produce more dependence than other drugs. A review of National Comorbidity Survey data show that 32 percent of all people ever using tobacco develop nicotine dependence, as compared to 23 percent of people using heroin, 17 percent of all people using cocaine, and 15 percent of all people using alcohol that develop dependence:



    Source: Understanding Tobacco as a Drug of Dependence

    Addiction to nicotine is far more common than addiction to cocaine, heroin or alcohol, and the rate of graduation from occasional use to addictive levels of intake is highest for nicotine in the form of cigarettes. Depending upon the definition used for occasional use, 33-90% of occasional users escalate to become daily.

    In contrast, even when highly addictive dosage forms of cocaine (ie smokeable 'crack' cocaine) are readily available in the US, the risk of progression from any use to regular use is the exception, not the rule. The 1988 US National Household Survey indicated that cocaine is currently used at least once per week by about 11% of people who have used cocaine in the past year and by about 29% of people who have used it in the past 30 days. For alcohol, approximately 10-15% of consumers of alcoholic beverages are problem drinkers.

    Source: RCP | Nicotine Addiction in Britain


    Tobacco is as addictive as heroin (as a mood & behavior altering agent).

    Source: Division of Periodontology: Tobacco Use Cessation Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Menard View Post
    Heroin is one of the most addictive drugs. A drug like nicotine can be kicked if someone puts their mind to it; it's not easy, but it can be done, and last. Heroin addiction usually requires intervention.
    Heroin addicts who abruptly stop using the drug commonly report flu-like symptoms, which may include chills, sweating, runny nose and eyes, muscular aches, stomach cramps, nausea, diarrhea, or headaches. While certainly unpleasant, the experience is not life threatening. Indeed, addicts who have developed tolerance (needing higher doses to achieve the same effect) often voluntarily undergo withdrawal so they can begin using heroin again at a lower dose, thereby reducing the cost of their habit.

    Source: H: The surprising truth about heroin and addiction. - Reason Magazine
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  8. #18
    Caffeine is right up there when it comes to addiction levels, and most of us have a very high tolerance to it. I quit it for a few months last year, but now am back on it. The best part about taking breaks from it is that when consumption is resumed, it takes a lesser amount to feel the effect and it feels better taken ocassionally than when taken daily.
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  9. #19
    Has anybody heard of this Chinese tea from West Lake, Hang Zhou, China?

    It is supposed to help you stop smoking -- pretty famous here in Asia, but since I'm not a smoker never tried myself.

    Stop Smoking Tea, West Lake

    Or you can also grow this herb at home

    http://www.vitaminsdiary.com/herbs/h...it-smoking.htm

  10. #20
    I think the desire to quit is the most important part. If you REALLY want it, you can do it. There are also so many psychological factors, so much happening in life that can impact addiction one way or another.
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