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    Keyword Research Question for Big Time AdSense Earners

    In another thread I asked the question how many articles are needed on a new site to start generating $500 per month in AdSense.

    The answer wasn't straight forward, some suggested filling a new site with cheap articles, other suggested concentrating on quality articles. In the end, Shenron, who is a trusted member of NB wrote that in his opinion a new site needs at least 100 good articles if it's going to earn around $500 per month.

    But, everyone who answered in the other thread said that keyword research and backlinks are critical. In this thread we're going to focus on asking the AdSense money earners, these are people who are earning at least $500 per month in AdSense from a single site, how they do their keyword research.

    There are a lot of free and paid tools for doing keyword research, but to clear away the clutter and make this easy for anyone who wants to copy the big time AdSense earners, how about asking the AdSense experts if they can give some tips on how to use Google's free AdWords Tool, and Wordtracker's free Trends tool.

    Both are very powerful tools when used by someone who knows how to find great keywords. Being an amateur, I use Google's tool first, I type in a keyword, phrase, or even a few keywords, and wait for Google to give me a list of related keywords, then I reorder the list based on the highest CPC (Cost per Click).

    I know the CPC isn't how much I get paid as an AdSense publisher, but my reasoning is that if advertisers are prepared to pay more then Google will also pay more. I suspect I'm wrong on this, and maybe there is a better way of figuring out how much I'll get paid per click.

    After that I go to Wordtrackers free tool, and one after the other I type in the keywords that have the highest CPC. This also gives me a list of related keywords, but if I click the icon next to each keyword I see two bars that can be colored red or green. Wherever possible I look for keywords with two green bars. If two green bars aren't found, then I'm happy to consider a keyword that has a green bar for competition even if the number of visitors for number one is under a hundred. I figure some traffic is better than heavy competition.

    I also make a spreadsheet of all the keywords I've found, with columns for CPC, competition, and number of estimated visitors for number one.

    So, this question is for the big AdSense earners, the people who earn around $500 per month from a single site, is this a good approach, or is it flawed?

    In other words, can you tell us how you do it, if possible using the same tools, or mention another tool that is also free?
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    Now, i dont earn $500 from adsense..only $100 is what i reach every month..but i think adsense also depends on the geographic location of visitor too..clicks from US will be better than clicks from middle east or asia..

    if you get related more KWs from wordtracker then put them again in Google's tool and find their CPC..for traffic estimation, check out Google insights and google trends also..

    regarding keyword competition research, its good to find the number of competing sites, but its also advisable to find out how strong they are..check out their BL's, On Site Seo etc..that will help you more..thsoe green bars are just one step..there is more to it..

    This applies not only to adsense but also to affiliate sites, ecommerce sites, one page crappy sales pages etc etc etc...

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    It's cool if you don't earn $500 per month on one site, your reply is valuable, or at least it isn't BS, you seem to know what you're talking about. Actually I think a lot of people could learn something from the advice you gave, especially about checking the backlinks of possible competition. Do you have any favourite tools or techniques you use?

    Speaking of tools, the Google Keyword Tool isn't working, it keeps giving me a session expired error. Does anyone else know of any free keyword checking tools?

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    try creating an adwords account..may be it will work then..regarding the tools, i will be updating on that shortly..cheers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    I also make a spreadsheet of all the keywords I've found, with columns for CPC, competition, and number of estimated visitors for number one.
    I use Open Office Spreadsheet extensively when doing keyword research.

    I'll usually go to Wordtracker and punch in a keyword that I've thought up using some of the ideas listed in Keyword Research Tips.

    I'll take the output of Wordtracker and paste it into my spreadsheet. I'll sort the spreadsheet by volume and delete the keywords that don't get enough searches to worry about. Then I'll sort the spreadsheet by KEI. I start by focusing on the keywords with the largest (i.e. easiest) KEI numbers. When the site gains authority, you can go after the harder keywords.

    I don't recommend the AdWords tool for keyword brainstorming, because that tool isn't good at coming up with keyword ideas. I do use it for keyword validation though.

    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    I know the CPC isn't how much I get paid as an AdSense publisher, but my reasoning is that if advertisers are prepared to pay more then Google will also pay more. I suspect I'm wrong on this, and maybe there is a better way of figuring out how much I'll get paid per click.
    In general, I use "gut feel" to answer this question. I ask myself "How likely is it that a visitor in this niche will click an ad?" and "How much will a click in this niche be worth to an advertiser?"

    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    Speaking of tools, the Google Keyword Tool isn't working, it keeps giving me a session expired error.
    It does that periodically. The usual fix is to hard reload the page.

    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    Does anyone else know of any free keyword checking tools?
    If I were running Windows, I would probably be using Microsoft Advertising Intelligence.
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