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    Drupal or Joomla?

    I've been working with WordPress for about five years and would like to expand into Joomla or Drupal. I looked at each about three years ago and they both looked like a mess and appeared to be difficult to learn.

    I'm looking for opinions from people who are programmers or designers who work with both of these systems.

    Which is easier to learn?

    Which is easier to customize?

    Which has more plugins?

    Which has the easiest template system to work with?

    Any problems with either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    I've been working with WordPress for about five years and would like to expand into Joomla or Drupal. I looked at each about three years ago and they both looked like a mess and appeared to be difficult to learn.
    I put some notes in an old Drupal vs. Joomla thread about a year and a half ago.

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    Which is easier to learn?
    Probably Joomla, although both have annoying learning curves.

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    Which is easier to customize?
    Probably Joomla.

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    Which has more plugins?
    Joomla seems to have much larger and more useful plugins.

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    Which has the easiest template system to work with?
    Joomla again.

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    Any problems with either?
    OH HELL YES -- PROBLEMS BY THE TRUCKLOAD.

    Both Joomla and Drupal have advantages, but after losing thousands of hours of productivity with Joomla over the last year I moved to Wordpress.

    Drupal is more sturdy than Joomla, but with Drupal you have to do a lot more yourself. With Joomla, lots more is done for you -- poorly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    OH HELL YES -- PROBLEMS BY THE TRUCKLOAD.

    Both Joomla and Drupal have advantages, but after losing thousands of hours of productivity with Joomla over the last year I moved to Wordpress.

    Drupal is more sturdy than Joomla, but with Drupal you have to do a lot more yourself. With Joomla, lots more is done for you -- poorly.
    It looks like things have not changed much since the last time I looked at both of them.
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    yah same go to me ..........
    due to DB issue, i try to convert my site from wp to joomla (easier to learn compare with drupal), at the end i created wordpress MS with multiple db to solve all issue, joomla just give me more headache ...

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    Hi ! I never worked on Drupal but know little about that. But from experience if i will say than Joomla is the best and as we no a days it's growing up more and more in market so if you know it than you can get more jobs in that.

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    My vote goes for Joomla. I think it's more flexible and it's easy to learn. The new version (1.6) has a lot of new features that will allow you to add content and modules very fast.

    I'm using Joomla for more than 3 years, and have also worked with wordpress and drupal, but never wanted to convert my sites. If you want a very customized website, choose Joomla.
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    Drupal is too complicated, especially the Taxonomy system. I'm sure I could learn all of it, but why when other CMS are simpler and save time? WordPress makes everything look like a blog, which is good for blogs, but not for other sites. Joomla is the middle ground for me. It's not perfect but it works.

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    That's a great post Will. -> Drupal vs. Joomla

    No matter what you choose, you'll have to dig in and modify it to suit your needs.

    Wordpress seems to have a more basic PHP coding system. Whereas Joomla and Drupal have a more customised PHP framework / API system that you have to learn on top of knowing (normal) PHP. The Joomla docs are not too bad though.

    I'd say Joomla templates are even easier to create and modify than wordpress themes. If you know a little bit of PHP, HTML / CSS, you can create extremely advanced templates very quickly.

    It all depends on what you want to do with your site, but something important to consider is what Will mentioned here:

    Joomla has its perks, but it's wrong for your project

    Joomla is smooth and easy to install, and out of the box (without changing settings in either CMS) it seems to be more powerful. But if you are trying to change anything in the way it displays and controls access, it turns out to be a brittle codebase that has practically no access control or customizable user groups.
    There are very basic usergroups by default in Joomla 1.5. You will have to install something to extend the usergroups and access permissions if you want more control over what registered members can access and do etc.

    Artof User - Extended User Manager is a Joomla 1.5 extension made by the current lead developer of Joomla:
    http://www.theartofjoomla.com/extens...rtof-user.html

    Extensions for access control/ user permissions etc
    http://extensions.joomla.org/extensi...ess-a-security

    There are a huge number of extensions in Joomla to do just about anything.. before deciding on any of them, test them well on a demo site before using on a live site because not all are as bug free or secure as they should be. Some extensions can conflict with other extensions and cause problems too.

    Joomla 1.6 has tried to cover those areas that were lacking in the acls / usergroups, and added a lot more features, but it's still new and judging from past history, I personally wouldn't be using 1.6 on any live site just yet until more security vulnerabilities are found and fixed. Even the Joomla.org site got hacked once when they updated to a new version that wasn't tested enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vectro View Post
    Drupal is too complicated, especially the Taxonomy system. I'm sure I could learn all of it, but why when other CMS are simpler and save time? WordPress makes everything look like a blog, which is good for blogs, but not for other sites. Joomla is the middle ground for me. It's not perfect but it works.
    Hahahha u should look at current wordpress and more imagine on how to create wordpress .....

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