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    Administration announces new gun control measures, targets military surplus imports

    The Obama administration unexpectedly announced two new gun control measures on Thursday, including one that would curb the import of military surplus weapons -- in a move that could anger collectors.

    Vice President Biden announced the new measures Thursday morning. The new rules, announced while Washington was otherwise focused on the crisis in Syria, took the form of executive actions, which President Obama added to the list of 23 steps the White House already determined the president could take on his own.

    The steps come after Congress declined to pass any gun control legislation earlier this year despite an aggressive White House push for action in the wake of the Newton, Conn., shooting massacre. With the political world focused on Mideast tensions and looming fiscal battles, the move signaled Obama's intent to show he hasn't lost sight of the issue.
    The National Rifle Association, though, ripped the administration, saying its proposals would do little to reduce crime.
    "The Obama administration has once again completely missed the mark when it comes to stopping violent crime," the NRA said in a statement.

    One new policy will end a government practice that lets military weapons, sold or donated by the U.S. to allies, be reimported into the U.S. by private entities. The White House said the U.S. has approved 250,000 of those guns to be reimported since 2005; under the new policy, only museums and a few other entities like the government will be eligible to reimport military-grade firearms.

    The Obama administration is also proposing a federal rule to stop those who would be ineligible to pass a background check from skirting the law by registering a gun to a corporation or trust. The new rule would require people associated with those entities, like beneficiaries and trustees, to undergo the same type of fingerprint-based background checks as individuals if they want to register guns.

    But the NRA said that neither measure would reduce crime, since neither the re-importation of firearms nor the corporate gun registration is known to be a source of weapons for criminals.


    According to you, are these two new gun control measures going to stop criminals?
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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    Nope. Nothing that Obama or the Democrats have proposed or put into play would have done anything to stop any of the massacres we have seen recently, nor would it stop the continued murder spree in Chicago, which for 25 years has had some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country.

    Military surplus weapons have never been a problem, nor have they contributed significantly to the murder rate. More people are murdered in the USA every year by hammers than by military assault weapons or by all rifles combined.

    FBI: More People Killed with Hammers, Clubs Each Year than Rifles

    FBI - Expanded Homicide Data

    It would therefore be more effective to ban the importation of hammers.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    Buck Ofama, as dictator of the USA, again bypasses Congress!
    He is going against not only Congress but the American people.
    Not that either one has ever bothered him.

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    Banning military surplus weapons into the US market, signed the small arms treaty, and give jihadists all the weapons they need in Syria.

    What is the logic of that? It just getting more and more irrational.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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    Plain and simple -- The logic and intent is create an unarmed American citizenry. These steps are not at all irrational in light of the unstated goal.

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    Sorry, providing weapons to Syria doesn't relate to the domestic agenda. The other two points do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Barr View Post
    Plain and simple -- The logic and intent is create an unarmed American citizenry. These steps are not at all irrational in light of the unstated goal.

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    Sorry, providing weapons to Syria doesn't relate to the domestic agenda. The other two points do.
    Unarmed American citizenry, is an open door for authoritarian regime and heavy taxation of the population, in other words no more individual liberties.


    The small arms treaty was signed to avoid that weapons fall into bad hands, I see that many countries including ours, are sending weaponry to djihadists that we are supposed to fight, in facts all of these guys are mercenaries working for black ops governments.

    So my point is that the small arms treaty is not really toward international trafficking but rather a political weapon that can eventually be use nationally in our countries.

    For example France sent this kind of weapon among others, now if these weapons are sold to other groups for money to target us, or jet airplanes, or else the small arms treaty is obsolete.

    Milan Missiles...




    Firing to civilian 747airplane

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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    The ban on surplus US surplus military weapons sounds like a magnificent move to gun grabbers until they figure out most military weapons built in the US in the last half century are already illegal to own for most individuals. About the most recent weapon it applies to is the WW2 M1 garand, which is functionally no different than the typical deer rifle. Of course this will nip in the bud all those mass shootings where the killer was armed with a vintage M-1. [oh wait, that's never happened.]

    Once again the president ignores the separation of powers (he cant unilaterally make law), ignores the bill of rights... And builds a bridge where there is no river.

    The other executive order affecting transfers of weapons with corporate ownership will call a screaming halt to all those corporate officers who have been on a murderous rampage. [oh yeah, that isnt happening either, see paragraph above.]

    If our congress continues to ignore this ignorant malicious son of a bitch's attacks on the constitution they have less balls than my little spotted cow dog, and she just had puppies.
    -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. --

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