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    Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Facing a rebellion over his latest debt ceiling proposal, Speaker John A. Boehner has told House Republicans that he will bring legislation to a vote on Wednesday that would raise the government’s borrowing authority with no strings attached.“House Republican leaders told members this morning that it is clear the paid-for military COLA provision will not attract enough support, so we will be bringing up a ‘clean’ debt limit bill tomorrow,” a Republican official said, referring to a plan on veterans’ benefits. “Boehner made clear the G.O.P. would provide the requisite number of Republican votes for the measure but that Democrats will be expected to carry the vote.”
    On Monday night, Mr. Boehner laid out a plan to link the debt ceiling increase to legislation that would have reversed a cut to veteran retirement benefits. But conservative Republicans opposed the plan, and Republican leaders worried that Democrats would not go along, holding firm to President Obama’s demand that no policy attachments come with a debt ceiling increase.
    On Tuesday, the speaker gave up, a dramatic gesture for a leader who once declared the “Boehner Rule,” which holds that any debt ceiling increase should be attached to spending cuts of equal size. A House Republican who was in the room for the speaker’s announcement described the response as “stunned silence.”
    At a breakfast with reporters on Tuesday, Gene B. Sperling, the director of the White House National Economic Council, said the president did support bipartisan efforts to reverse a trim of 1 percentage point to cost-of-living increases for working-age veterans — at least for those already receiving such benefits. That seems to indicate that he would have signed a debt ceiling increase with that provision, although Mr. Sperling declined to comment on the exact legislation.
    But winning a “clean” increase in the debt limit would be a clear victory for the president, who negotiated a deficit deal in 2011 under the shadow of a default, accepted a provision last year demanding that the Senate pass a budget in exchange for a debt limit increase, and now has won complete capitulation.
    “I hope the tactic of threatening default for budget debates is over, off the table and never to happen again,” Mr. Sperling said, adding that the decision will be “a boost for confidence and investment in the U.S.”
    Mr. Boehner explained the decision to go forward with a “clean” debt ceiling bill as a reflection of the political reality that he simply did not have enough Republican votes to pass anything more ambitious.
    “It’s the fact that we don’t have 218 votes,” he said after meeting with House Republicans, “and when you don’t have 218 votes, you have nothing.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/us...tachments.html

    Raising the debt ceiling without any political goal is putting one more nail in the coffin.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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    Republicans have grown tired of trying to do the right thing for the country, but then find themselves getting slaughtered by the heavily biased liberal media, which in turn affects public opinion. That is because the overwhelming majority of voters only know what they hear and see in the news. Republicans do not want public opinion to turn against them just prior to the 2014 election. If they can retain control of the Congress and take the Senate back, they can neuter Obama's insane policies.

    I lost faith in politicians many years ago.

    I lost faith that the voting public is going to do what's best for country when people reelected the idiot currently in charge, although he was reelected with 4 million fewer votes than he received in 2008. That shows that only less than 10% of the people who voted for Obama in 2008 were paying attention and grew wiser by 2012.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    Republicans have grown tired of trying to do the right thing for the country, but then find themselves getting slaughtered by the heavily biased liberal media, which in turn affects public opinion.
    Com'on Top, President Bush started 2 wars that cost many lifes and trillions of dollars after a 9/11 coup by who knows and all the consequences involved.

    That is because the overwhelming majority of voters only know what they hear and see in the news.
    Sadly, people are under mind control.


    Republicans do not want public opinion to turn against them just prior to the 2014 election. If they can retain control of the Congress and take the Senate back, they can neuter Obama's insane policies.
    I bet if the Republicans take power of the full Congress it will be like the old days.

    I lost faith in politicians many years ago.
    Me too, watch carefully Europe, it will give the tone.
    Last edited by Franc Tireur; 12 February, 2014 at 16:55 PM.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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    Quote Originally Posted by Franc Tireur View Post
    Com'on Top, President Bush started 2 wars that cost many lifes and trillions of dollars after a 9/11 coup by who knows and all the consequences involved.
    I am not talking about Bush. I'm referring to the current Congress. Bush didn't do us any favors by getting us into 2 wars that we can never benefit or recover costs from. Musli countries are not at all like Europe after WWII.

    Quote Originally Posted by Franc Tireur View Post
    I bet if the Republicans take power of the full Congress it will be like the old days.
    There will not be any old days if the current idiot in charge keeps us on the same path he has led us down.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    There will not be any old days if the current idiot in charge keeps us on the same path he has led us down.
    What will prevent him to use unilaterally his power of executive order? You can have a Republican Congress, it will not stop him and his administration. Plus if you pay attention, Democrats and Republicans agree on many issues, many against freedom and liberties.

    So in which way do you think it will be different if the Republicans are in majority in Congress besides social issues?
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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    How "funny"

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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