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    Is China Mobilizing For A War With Japan?

    We don't know if it merely a coincidence that a story has emerged discussing a Chinese mobilization in response to the ongoing territorial feud with Japan over the Diaoyu/Senkaku islands (and the proximal massive gas field) the very week that China celebrates its new year (and days after news that a Chinese warship was very close to firing on a Japanese destroyer). We don't know how much of the story is based in reality, and how much may be propaganda or furthering someone's agenda. What we do know is that the source of the story: offshore-based, Falun Gong-affiliated NTDTV has historically been a credible source of information that the China communist party desperately tries to censor, such as breaking the news of the SARS epidemic in 2003 some three weeks before China publicly admitted it. Its motto is "to bring truthful and uncensored information into and out of China." If that is indeed the case, and its story of major troop movements and mobilization of various types of military vehicles and artillery into the Fujian and Zhejian provinces, bordering the East China Sea and closest to the Diaoyu islands, is accurate, then hostilities between China and Japan may be about to take a major turn for the worse.
    Is China Mobilizing For A War With Japan? | Zero Hedge

    How much credibility do you give to this?

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    mobilization of various types of military vehicles and artillery into the Fujian and Zhejian provinces
    Wow. Staging a war outta the Fujian province could adversely affect the ability of every man/woman/child there to create 200 IDs with which to sell Ugg Boots, NFL jerseys and replica handbags. What a loss that'd be to the world.

    Japan beat the hell outta China in the late 30s and throughout WW2, the goal being to go for a land grab, so if there's still some bad blood on the topic I wouldn't be entirely shocked. Kinda hard to tell from here, I've pretty much ceased to expect actual news outta our news media.
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    There is still a lot of bad blood towards Japan in both China and Korea due to the atrocities committed by the Jap soldiers during WWII. Also, lots of "comfort women" were taken to the Japanese homeland and never returned. They basically took all of the good looking babes out of the country.

    You would think that all of the Japanese manufacturing facilities set up in China and Korea would have smoothed things out, but that may only partially be the case.

    I was in Seoul a few years ago and was having breakfast with a Japanese friend who was working in a Japanese-built manufacturing plant in Korea. A young waiter came up to us and started talking to the Japanese guy in Korean, obviously thinking that he was Korean. My friend politely apologized and said that he was Japanese and does not speak Korean very well. If looks could kill, my Jap friend would have been a slab of dead meat served along side the kimchi. The waiter stormed off and refused to serve us. The manager did come by and did serve us, but we were both wondering if anything "special" was added to the meal.

    Asians have very long memories.

    If China were to attack Japan, it would put Obama-san in an awkward position. I suspect he would abandon the military support of Japan in favor of his Communist friends and would resort to fruitless diplomatic talks just to put on a good show.

    It is amazing that both of these counties are squabbling over uninhabited islands that "may" contain energy resources.

    Personally, it may be a good thing to have some friction between the US and China. It may force the Chinese to stop investing in the presidential spending sprees in the USA and could revive some USA industries. Entire industries, such as fluorescent and tungsten lighting manufacturers, have been wiped out by cheap Chinese products. Yes, all of the mercury tainted CFL lighting that the environmental nuts are forcing us to buy is manufactured in China. Sylvania shut down the last USA-based lighting manufacturing location two years ago.
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    This time?
    Godzilla, Mothra and a few others will rise up and wipe out China.

    By the time Dear Leader is done slashing our military all we'll have left for defense is a couple of slingshots and a box of firecrackers. But on the plus side, the money he should be using to keep us safe will buy a helluva lot of free stuff for the moocher class. And that's really all he cares about.

    So the USA will be out of that fight! No muslims to free....

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    Based on all of the reports that Obummer is arming the IRS with weapons and ammunition, perhaps he plans to send a couple of divisions of bean counters to fight the wars. The IRS is known for having no mercy.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    IRS is actually hiring right now!
    They have requested thousands of new agents.
    Tax code is just too much for the present crew, so need more and more and more.

    St. Louis fast tracks a group of muslims to be cops.

    New drones flying all over the skies of our country.
    No word yet on them being armed.

    Hey, one lesson learned from LAPD and the killer ex-cop they are looking for?
    There is not enough cops to protect the other cops, leaving people in the know knowing that if ever it comes to a shooting war in the USA?
    Cops will either be on the right side or the dead side real fast.

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    Maybe the IRS represents the record business profits our delusional president was talking about last night.

    Someone has to pay for the massive increases in spending that he talked about last night that "will not raise the deficit one dime." That means taxes.

    I watched the State of the Union Address last night right up until he swung hard left and got into the record profits and paying a fair share. My gag reflex started to kick in right about that time.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    A better target for China is Outer Manchuria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia --Russia is in demographic decline and the area is rich in fertile land, timber, oil/gas, fish and water resources.


    I think that the most likely target for China is Vietnam. As the say goes, "kill a chicken to scare the monkies". An attack on Vietnam would avenge China's loss to Vietnam in 1979 and Taiwan, South Korea, Japan and the Phillipines would fall into line. After securing the China Sea, China would be in position to ramp-up against Russia. Even join forces with Japan to pressure the Russians to amke territorial concessions.

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    Remember, as the Chinese know this for a fact and it is part of their war planning.
    Russia has the bulk of their rockets/missiles and atom bombs on the Chinese border.
    China attacks?
    Beijing is dust.

    Now for Vietnam?
    Chinese found out that hey, the Vietnamese are mean mothers (we found out) and would fight them, as last time, in the jungles and defeat them.
    Even if the Chinese can push down to say Hanoi, the world (USA, etal) would be pumping in equipment and weaponry into Vietnam, plus of course, the one thing that the Chinese are a bit afraid of, our navy and our submarines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Remember, as the Chinese know this for a fact and it is part of their war planning.
    Russia has the bulk of their rockets/missiles and atom bombs on the Chinese border.
    China attacks?
    Beijing is dust.
    This is true that Russia has a strong nuclear deterrent against China. This is why I believe that Outer Manchuria is a longer term strategy that can wait until after China dominates the South China Sea and possibly retakes Tawain. A combination of Chinese immigration into outer Manchuria and joint pressure in cooperation with Japan should do the trick. The Japanese want the Kuril islands and the Chinese would be happy to settle for piece of Outer Manchuria that they lost in 1860. Everyone would be happy. The Russians could get a deal for joint economic development of the Russian Far East.

    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Now for Vietnam?
    Chinese found out that hey, the Vietnamese are mean mothers (we found out) and would fight them, as last time, in the jungles and defeat them.
    Even if the Chinese can push down to say Hanoi, the world (USA, etal) would be pumping in equipment and weaponry into Vietnam, plus of course, the one thing that the Chinese are a bit afraid of, our navy and our submarines.
    I agree that Vietnamese will fight hard. But Vietnam is nowhere as strong as they were in 1979 and China has a far superior navy and airforce. I think that China's goal would be to give the NVA a bloody nose and to sieze control of the Paracels and the Spratlys in a very short war. The US Navy is the smallest since Jimmy Carter was in office and the US Navy is preparing to decommision 2 aircraft carriers.

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