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Thread: France risks ‘social explosion’ over high taxes

  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    If I dumped a truckload of dung in front of the White House, they would haul me away and charge me with a terrorist attack on the president. Then they would send me a bill for the $1.2 million it cost for federal union workers to clean up the mess and the EPA environmental impact study that followed.
    I think this kind of action show more desperation than anything else. The best weapon that citizens have in their possession is to vote out all the politicians careerists and vote for new young generation of modern politicians that listen to the people.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Franc Tireur View Post
    I think this kind of action show more desperation than anything else. The best weapon that citizens have in their possession is to vote out all the politicians careerists and vote for new young generation of modern politicians that listen to the people.
    Yeah, but if the presidential election was run today using the same tactics they used in 2012, Obama and the goon squad would probably still win. It was obvious that there was widespread vote fraud in that election, yet the Republicans never made an issue of it.

    The only people who get prosecuted for vote fraud are the people who brag about doing it, such as the Democrat poll worker who bragged about voting multiple times. The message behind that: Do it quietly and don't brag about it.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    Yeah, but if the presidential election was run today using the same tactics they used in 2012, Obama and the goon squad would probably still win. It was obvious that there was widespread vote fraud in that election, yet the Republicans never made an issue of it.

    The only people who get prosecuted for vote fraud are the people who brag about doing it, such as the Democrat poll worker who bragged about voting multiple times. The message behind that: Do it quietly and don't brag about it.
    Vote fraud always existed, that's why I really don't like electronic voting machines that can be used in fraud. I posted something about the electronic votes a while ago, that The bank Goldman Sachs owned indirectly the voting machines corporation and scandals about the machines:

    Diebold's Faulty Voting Machines

    Let's hope this scenario doesn't become a trend. The company that may have put President Bush in office because of programming errors has finally admitted they have had a problem for ten years. Diebold, now renamed Premier Election Solutions, has finally admitted votes disappeared when transferred from memory to a central location. The flaw was on both their optical scan and touchscreen machines.
    U.S. E-Voting Election Scandals - Diebold's Faulty Voting Machines

    Imagine how easy it can be hacked...I will vote only in the old fashion way: envelop and ballot paper.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Franc Tireur View Post
    Imagine how easy it can be hacked...I will vote only in the old fashion way: envelop and ballot paper.
    As long as the Diebold machines are locked and secured, they are actually not easy to hack. The article is pretty biased because it assumes that Al Gore lost enough votes in Florida to allow George Bush to win. The real issue is votes that are lost due to data transfer issues, which on average would have affected votes for both parties equally, especially in a close election. Only the liberals have claimed that votes were being changed from Gore to Bush. There was no evidence to support that claim.

    Even with paper ballots, there have always been problems with ballots being intentionally lost when it looked like the other party would win, as well as ballots being substituted. In the 2000 election, one guy walked into a Madison Wisconsin polling station with two shopping bags full of ballots that had been pre-filled in with Democrat votes. Numerous students were interviewed on the news who claimed they voted as many as 10 times and no one stopped them. These people should be arrested and prosecuted, but neither party is willing to do that. If you throw 2 or 3 people in jail or fine them $10,000, most of the rest will stop doing it. The lack of prosecution also allows the Democrats to claim that voter fraud does not exist because there are no prosecutions. This past election there were over 5,000 voter fraud complaints filed on election day, which is a record number. There was no follow-up beyond that.

    Perhaps we should go with a national ID card that must be used in order to vote, and can also be used as a legal ID for flying and other purposes. I think that is what they did in the UK.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    Perhaps we should go with a national ID card that must be used in order to vote, and can also be used as a legal ID for flying and other purposes. I think that is what they did in the UK.
    The best combination is an ID, and a voting card. When you have voted there is a stamp with the date so nobody can vote more than one time. When they tally the vote political delegates are here to check an count with city hall officials.

    In my opinion it is the best way and frauds are very limited. But now voting is all about money and lies...so no thanks.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  6. #16
    It is heating up in France...



    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  7. #17
    Thousands march through Paris in protest against French leader Hollande

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/01/26/thousands-march-through-paris-to-criticize-french-leader-hollande/


    Funny to discover that Foxnews put a popularity of Hollande at 30% when in France it is rather than 20% or less! and at this level he should leave or he stays and have no honor...

    For those who read French:
    Hollande président le plus impopulaire de la Ve République
    http://www.20minutes.fr/politique/1250757-20131117-hollande-bat-record-impopularite-president-francais-depuis-1958
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  8. #18
    Fox news probably did not do the survey.They got the data from somewhere.

    I am really surprised that Obama is doing as well as he is in the polls. Of course, the difference is that the liberal media still supports Obama and most US voters are completely oblivious to what goes on in Washington DC or too busy counting their welfare freebies.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    I am really surprised that Obama is doing as well as he is in the polls. Of course, the difference is that the liberal media still supports Obama and most US voters are completely oblivious to what goes on in Washington DC or too busy counting their welfare freebies.
    The mainstream media are taking orders from governments, the good thing is that more people aren't listening them anymore. The videos I posted above about "Jour de colère" was organized from internet. No unions, no political parties were in the protest, which mean that thousands of people not affiliated with any organization responded to the call. The French mainstream media and officials just ignored the protest. In many French opinion, France is in a pre-revolutionary social status that could go off into the worse very soon.

    To add insult to injury, look at the graphic what the EU and Euro have for result:

    French Jobseekers Surge To New Record High

    For a moment there, mid-year, when the French forgot to send texts out to all their unemployed people to confirm their joblessness, that French and European leaders looked at the French jobseekers data and hailed the corner as having turned. It has not! For the 30th of the last 32 months, French joblessness increased. At 3.303 million jobseekers, French unemployment is at an all-time record high (and 10Y French debt trades 36bps lower in yield than US 10Y).
    French Jobseekers Surge To New Record High | Zero Hedge
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  10. #20
    This protest is a big one, and it seems like there will be much more soon.

    This socialist gov should go before the whole country revolt!

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


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