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    France slams ‘extremist’ Titan CEO over Goodyear slur

    The French minister of industry and growth has accused Maurice Taylor, CEO of US tyre maker Titan, of being “extremist” and “insulting” in comments detailing why he would not invest in France and would flood the market with cheap imports.
    France's minister of industry and growth, Arnaud Montebourg, on Wednesday accused the head of a US tyre company of being “extremist” and “insulting” for his derision of French working practices and the country’s manufacturing sector.

    Montebourg was responding to a letter, published earlier in the day by French business daily Les Echos, from Maurice Taylor, CEO of Titan International, explaining his reasons for not wanting to buy troubled tyre manufacturer Goodyear’s French operation.
    Taylor said “crazy” trade unions at the Goodyear factory in Amiens, in northern France, had scuppered the plant’s future, and accused its “so-called workers” of working three hours a day and spending the rest of the time taking breaks and talking.
    He also accused the French government of being apathetic and short-sighted in the face of competition from Asian countries.
    He finished by saying he intended to buy a Chinese or Indian manufacturer and flood the French market with cheap tyres.

    ‘Ridiculous and derogatory’
    Montebourg retaliated with an open letter published across French media later on Wednesday, saying: “Your ideas are as extremist as they are insulting, while showing a perfect ignorance of our country.”

    The minister pointed out the large number of US companies operating profitably in France, while highlighting the historical links between the two countries, from French help in the American revolutionary war, to the deep French respect for American sacrifices in the Second World War.
    “The truth is far from your ridiculous and derogatory remarks,” Montebourg wrote. “All these companies know and appreciate the quality and productivity of the French workforce.”
    “I would remind you that your company, Titan, is 20 times smaller than [French tyre giant] Michelin … and 35 times less profitable.”
    He concluded: “Rest assured, you can count on me to monitor … with redoubled vigilance the import of your tyres to France.”
    “The relevant authorities will pay particular attention to their compliance with our high environmental and technical standards, as well as the human conditions in which they are made.”
    France slams ‘extremist’ Titan CEO over Goodyear slur - FRANCE - FRANCE 24

    We are going to see a deja vu, freedom fries, etc LOL

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    I think I need to put Maurice on my Christmas card list.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    I think I need to put Maurice on my Christmas card list.
    LOL, no thanks

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    I think the Titan CEO says many things that are incorrect, perhaps he had a bad day or something lol.

    1) You don't have 1 hour lunch when you are working in 3 x 8 teams
    2) There is no break in France
    3) Workers in these kind of companies do not make high pay wages, most of the time they are paid 400 euros above the minimum wage.
    4) They are not working 3 hours and talking 3 hours, that will be a motive to be fired.

    And to finish, comparing apples and oranges is ridiculous, even an American worker do not work at Chinese worker wage. If all of that were true, Michelin wouldn't be one of the best tyre brand making huge profits

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    Read the article.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2723996.html
    Those tire workers are highly paid for what they do.
    And they want more.

    Plus yes, they do take all breaks, etc.

    And look at how many weeks they have to work before getting weeks off (with pay).

    I am with the Titan man,,,,,,
    Why spend money on an operation that costs too much to run because of the workers, the unions, and the government?
    Why is the present company shutting it down if no buyer?

    Michelin makes tires in plants all over the world.
    Not just in France!

    You look at the unions and the government of France and you see, to own a business there is bad business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Not different from the link I posted.

    Those tire workers are highly paid for what they do.
    And they want more.
    I guess it depends on your perpective, but what do you call highly paid?

    Plus yes, they do take all breaks, etc.
    Legally speaking there are no breaks, if they take what's isn't allowed, the management is pretty poor.

    And look at how many weeks they have to work before getting weeks off (with pay).
    You have to make the difference between labor laws and the employer rights, it is working differently over there.

    I am with the Titan man,,,,,,
    Why spend money on an operation that costs too much to run because of the workers, the unions, and the government?
    Why is the present company shutting it down if no buyer?
    That's the foreign employer choices.

    Michelin makes tires in plants all over the world.
    Not just in France!
    Lol, do you want to teach me French too? I know Michelin

    You look at the unions and the government of France and you see, to own a business there is bad business.
    What is bad business for you? These French companies are centuries old.

    The problem is the Socialist government policies that do not have any clue on how to make good business and they never did, not the system.

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    I worked for an international company for 20 years and we had an office in Paris. Those workers did take breaks and plenty of holidays. I hired a guy one time and after working less than a month he took a two week paid holiday, which was allowed in the French contract. That would never happen in the USA where most employees accrue vacation time.

    France appears to be trying to find a balance between a Socialist government and capitalist business structure. There was a major strike going on in some industry about every other time I visited Paris.

    Although we had some good French employees, the French people never struck me as hard working. The French philosophy appears to be more focused on enjoying a comfortable life.

    The only reason we maintained an office in Paris is because our original sales office and distribution center was in Germany. We quickly learned that the French still do not like the Germans after two world wars and would not buy from them. We then moved the distribution center to Holland and set up an office in Paris and did a gangbusters business in France. Old animosities die slowly in Europe.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    I worked for an international company for 20 years and we had an office in Paris. Those workers did take breaks and plenty of holidays. I hired a guy one time and after working less than a month he took a two week paid holiday, which was allowed in the French contract. That would never happen in the USA where most employees accrue vacation time.
    Well if you are referring to the labor Law or "code du travail" article L. 223-1 specify clearly that for each month worked your right is 2.5 days holiday. Now it could be some other internal arragements, or but I doubt that, the convention collective in this industry. Same thing with breaks, it could be arrangment between employees and employer.

    France appears to be trying to find a balance between a Socialist government and capitalist business structure. There was a major strike going on in some industry about every other time I visited Paris.

    Although we had some good French employees, the French people never struck me as hard working. The French philosophy appears to be more focused on enjoying a comfortable life.
    That's correct that the French philosophy appears to be more focused on enjoying a comfortable life.

    The only reason we maintained an office in Paris is because our original sales office and distribution center was in Germany. We quickly learned that the French still do not like the Germans after two world wars and would not buy from them. We then moved the distribution center to Holland and set up an office in Paris and did a gangbusters business in France. Old animosities die slowly in Europe.
    I don't know about that, my daughter is a student in France and went many times in Germany to pratice her German. The past is the past, at some point you have to turn the page, as we don't live in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    That's correct that the French philosophy appears to be more focused on enjoying a comfortable life.
    There wasn't any focus on achievement and it was hard to motivate new employees. Their main focus was on themselves. I was on a flight in the 1990s with one of the guys (he was German) in charge of formulating the plan for the European Union. He said that France was the largest impediment to the agreement, because whenever all the other countries were in agreement about something, France did not agree and wanted something that uniquely benefited France.


    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    I don't know about that, my daughter is a student in France and went many times in Germany to pratice her German. The past is the past, at some point you have to turn the page, as we don't live in the past.
    The attitudes of the young and the attitudes of the older are frequently two very different things. The young do not always recognize what the older generations went through.

    The attitudes could have changed over the years. We set up the Paris office in the early 1990s. At that time the French people had a reputation for being rude and obnoxious to foreigners, and they openly displayed those traits. I did see a change in French attitudes after the formation of the European Union. At that point, they seemed to accept the inevitable. The last few times I was in France were very pleasant.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    There wasn't any focus on achievement and it was hard to motivate new employees. Their main focus was on themselves. I was on a flight in the 1990s with one of the guys (he was German) in charge of formulating the plan for the European Union. He said that France was the largest impediment to the agreement, because whenever all the other countries were in agreement about something, France did not agree and wanted something that uniquely benefited France.
    It is difficult to make generalities, but I can tell you that we all know that the European Union was sold to the French as a better life style, friendly partnership, bigger market for businesses, workers will make more money, etc, etc etc Today it is more apparent that the EU is for business and finance to destroy progressively the French life style, perhaps other foreign countries life styles.

    The French philosophy is not to be a follower but rather find our own individual way. Discipline is not our best quality and we don't care to be number 1

    This page resume a little the French attitudes: French Attitudes ; understand strange behaviors ; The French are crazy ;

    This page is really what we are at work: http://www.understandfrance.org/Pari...ml#ancre643128


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