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  1. I want power.

    Gotta love the name of this forum (and many forums like it). "Politics and Religion" are precisely the two things I want to eliminate altogether and replace them with the DoublePlusHuman-ism. Remove coercion (and thus violence), remove superstition (and thus lots of gullibility) and remove self-contradiction (instituting complete congruence with self and others and universe) and you've pretty much set the foundation for paradise on Earth.

    I do not care how impossible these goals may seem.

    I do want to admit one thing. This requires power. And.. I want power. I wrote an explanation o that here. Do you want power? Don't be ashamed of it. It is only human. Denying it only made societies of victims and criminals. Stop denying it.

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    That would make you just as bad or worse than the issues that you rail against.

    Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    Just watch our Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. That's what too much power does to people.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  3. I'm not referring just to coercive power over other people, but more in general. More money tends to give you more power. Improving your reputation in the market gives you more power (to persuade potential buyers and be more influential). Personal development gives you power; increasing your skills and abilities and improving your mentality.

    Your example is an example of political power which too many people have. If everyone sought power, even in the areas in which they typically believe they should be powerless, a good healthy competition would arise to this corrupt political power you're talking about. The ultimate "goal" if you can call it that (because the goal is really for ALL of us to be more powerful) is a healthy decentralized horizontal balance of power.

    Maybe I should use that corny saying: Power to The People.

    Unfortunately though that saying is so often misinterpreted and used to establish exactly the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memenode View Post
    The ultimate "goal" if you can call it that (because the goal is really for ALL of us to be more powerful) is a healthy decentralized horizontal balance of power.

    Maybe I should use that corny saying: Power to The People.
    If all of us had equal power, no one would have power, because power assumes that you are stronger than others in some way.

    The problem with power is that too many people become abusive when given any degree of power. It's human nature.

    If you equalize monetary power through income equalization, there is no incentive for anyone to do better. That is why communism does not work. The idealistic goal of communism is to create a single social class of people put everyone on an equal playing field to share the wealth. The reality is that the wealth dries up because no one has to work heard and everyone is worse off. And communism does not create a single class of people. It creates two classes: a ruling class and a subservient class, which is also the goal of the One World Order philosophy.

    Monetary equality, social equality and other ideals never work in the real world. They only make things worse because they look nice on paper, but fail to take human nature into account.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  5. I don't think about power that way and I'm certainly not advocating communism, believe me.

    To me power simply implies the capacity to accomplish something. It is the opposite of helplessness or powerlessness. This in no way implies solely power to control other people. Such power is power at the expense of power of another human being which often turns back to you like a boomerang and creates social conflicts.

    Someone advocating that everyone has as much power as they can therefore actually excludes power OVER each other as a really bad way to pursue such a cause.

    Also, "balance of power" and decentralized horizontal distribution of power does not necessarily imply equality. Balance doesn't need equality. That idea is just a result of a top down way of thinking about social order (a lot like communism) which tends to ignore the fact that we are all as individuals different from each other. In a sense one might have more power than another and yet be equally happy as someone with less power.

    It all depends on what exactly is it that makes you happy and how much "power" is necessary to accomplish that. Some people want to go to the moon and that's their ultimate while others will suffice with a nice quiet beach house here on Earth. It can easily be argued that the latter requires less relative power than the former yet both of these personal ultimates would make their accomplisher equally happy.

    Balance merely means lack of conflict, a situation in which my power doesn't come at the expense of yours. There can be an overlap in a sense that your decision to trade or cooperate with me, for instance, increases my power at the same time as this relationship increases yours. This isn't conflict, just a mutually beneficial relationship (which all relationships should be).

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