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    The Liberal Media is Getting Giddy About Immigration Reform

    There is a hot article on Politico today that emphasizes how much the Democrats could win with immigration reform.

    Immigration reform could be bonanza for Dems - Emily Schultheis - POLITICO.com

    The immigration proposal pending in Congress would transform the nation’s political landscape for a generation or more — pumping as many as 11 million new Hispanic voters into the electorate a decade from now in ways that, if current trends hold, would produce an electoral bonanza for Democrats and cripple Republican prospects in many states they now win easily.
    The article is riddled with misinformation, but does show how much the Dems are counting on getting the majority of votes from illegals turned into voting citizens if the Dems get their version of immigration reform.

    Not all Hispanics vote Democrat, but the overwhelming majority of illegals support the Democrats because they are the party offering the freebies. An not all illegals will want to become citizens. A large percentage are here just because they want either the freebies or to work for cash so they do not pay taxes. 95% of illegals in Los Angeles work for cash.

    There could be enough votes to lock in the Dems for at least a generation, but it will only last until Hispanics spend time working legally and paying taxes before the situation could flip. The problem is the enourmous amount of damage the Dems could continue to inflict on the economy in a generation as well as the distortion of The Constitution and our laws if more liberal Supreme Court Justices are appointed.

    If the Dems get their version of immigration reform pushed through, we will have lost the battle and the war. I hope the conservative side of the Gang of 8 have enough sense to realize this. Sorry McCain, the goal is not to turn illegals into citizens. The goal is to solve the problems due to the influx of illegals and the costs for providing the gravy train benefits. It doesn't matter what the Democrats agree to with respect to border security. They will renege on any promises to secure the borders just like they did with Reagan.

    We currently have a huge influx of illegals crossing the border under the belief that Obama is going to grant them amnesty. ICE has been told to stand down and they are no longer allowed to arrest illegals. The flood gates have been opened.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    Reid On How To Stop Another Terror Attack: Pass Amnesty

    Reid argues immigration reform would enhance national security - The Hill

    That my friends is liberal thinking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Reid On How To Stop Another Terror Attack: Pass Amnesty

    Reid argues immigration reform would enhance national security - The Hill

    That my friends is liberal thinking!
    Yeah! Peace up! 'Gang of Eight' Senators Chuck Schumer and Lindsey Graham were making the same argument on last Sunday's morning news shows.

    How about the other side of the coin?

    (1) Janet Napolitano can't keep track of people that have a green card. How is she going to keep track of 11 million more?

    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the DHS knew about Boston bomber suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev travel to Russia last year, but lost track when he returned.
    Napolitano: We Knew Tsarnaev Went to Russia, Lost Track When He Returned

    (2) Giving terrorists government IDs allows them to board planes and travel to jihad camps.

    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    We currently have a huge influx of illegals crossing the border under the belief that Obama is going to grant them amnesty. ICE has been told to stand down and they are no longer allowed to arrest illegals. The flood gates have been opened.
    The amnesty bill gives legal status to illegals that were in the US before December 31, 2011. What do they plan to do with the 2 million illegals that don't get amnesty? Anything in the immigration reform bill that prevents sanctuary cities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    Anything in the immigration reform bill that prevents sanctuary cities?
    When ICE is not allowed to do their job, we effectively have a sanctuary country.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    The amnesty bill gives legal status to illegals that were in the US before December 31, 2011.
    I believe the new nomenclature is, "Unregistered Democrat", not "illegal". Please do try and correct your language.

    [Edit] What I find particularly disturbing are the guys like Grover Norquist who are basically supporting the business interests that don't give a crap about wages in America. His policies are what create the need for Unions and minimum wage, and completely destroy the middle class.

    Equally concerning are guys like John 'asshat' McCain, who try and tell us that the fine folks from south of the border share conservative values, citing their tendency to be religious. Yah, they share the exact social conservative values that get Republicans killed in states like California, New York, and New Jersey.

    • Abortion
    • Gay Marriage
    • God in Schools


    They share NONE of the values that would win us elections in almost every state.


    • Self reliance
    • Responsibility for ones own actions
    • Fiscal responsibility
    • Smaller government
    • Unionization


    Who the hell wants to bring in people whose vote we can only win by marrying ourselves to losing issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by obamanation View Post
    Equally concerning are guys like John 'asshat' McCain, who try and tell us that the fine folks from south of the border share conservative values, citing their tendency to be religious. Yah, they share the exact social conservative values that get Republicans killed in states like California, New York, and New Jersey.
    Most people don't know this. Asian immigration is surpassing Hispanic immigration. About 430,000 Asians, or 36 percent of all new immigrants, arrived in the U.S. in 2010, according to the latest census data. That's compared to about 370,000, or 31 percent, who were Hispanic.

    You would think that Asians would be natural Republicans. (Two in five Chinese foreign-born adults had a bachelor's or higher degree and mostly high-skilled.) But this is not the case, Asians are strong Democratic voters that prefer big government and more services. Asians also want more immigration as over half of Chinese-born lawful permanent residents were family-sponsored immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    When ICE is not allowed to do their job, we effectively have a sanctuary country.
    It's appears that the "Gang Of Eight" immigration plan is nothing more than another 1986 amnesty for illegal aliens,
    Napolitano says that she has the right to decide which immigration laws to enforce.

    During her testimony on the “Gang of Eight” immigration bill before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano declared that she, President Barack Obama and other political officials at the top of this administration have the authority to decide which [immigration] laws to enforce, and which ones to ignore.
    Big Sis: Obama Admin Can Pick Which Laws to Enforce

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Reid On How To Stop Another Terror Attack: Pass Amnesty

    Reid argues immigration reform would enhance national security - The Hill

    That my friends is liberal thinking!
    Yeah, I was reading a piece in NYT talking about how gun control (?) would have helped avoid the bombing. I was thinking... gee, gun control? Know what REALLY woulda helped avoid the bombing in Boston? If the guys that did it lived in the country they were in before we let them come here.

    Or taking it a step further... it would help if our administration wasnt so darned fixated on "rightwing extremists" that they actually paid attention when Russia warned us 2 years ago that the maniac that planned this was gonna be an issue. Clearly the FBI didn't believe this since Napolitano assured them there's no threat unless the guy has an NRA card and a copy of the King James New Testament.

    All over the world stuff gets blown up by Islamic jihadists and our administration's intent on pretending they don't exist. Reminds me of the boxer who drags over to his corner after the bell and his trainer confidently states "Great job kid, he aint layin a glove on ya!"

    Fighter looks at him and says "In that case, better keep an eye on that ref, cause somebody is beating the hell outta me."
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    On a related note:
    -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. --

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    You never hear about illegal aliens getting prosecuted for possessing fake documents. If we did that kind of shit, We'd be locked up!

    On Houston streets, a top-quality counterfeit green card proving legal residency commands $500, federal agents say. Even shabby green cards bring $15 to $100 while a good-quality package — a driver’s license, green card and Social Security card — can cost $350.
    Fake documents freely available on Houston streets

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