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  1. #31
    Do you believe that people's lives were better in the 50s?
    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    Anything is possible. There is a growing number of people who believe that a One World Order organization (Rothchilds, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, etc) is pulling the strings in a lot of countries. people also point to the fact that they cannot achieve their One World Order goals unless the USA is effectively neutered financially.

    The impression you get in your country all comes down to what they showed on TV where you live. For the first time, the number one financial support group for Obama's campaign was the liberal news media in the USA. They donated more that the unions or the trial attorneys.

    The American news media actively protected Obama, just like they did during the last election, by refusing to cover the gaffs, lies and mistakes that were made. They also refused to investigate the legitimate issues that were raised, such as the illegal overseas campaign contributions Obama was accepting through his web site.

    This could have been one of the most fraudulent elections in American history. A huge percentage of people (myself included) voted early by mailing in the ballots. That is probably the most insecure way there is to vote.
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    Not sure why you ask, but the economy was better in the fifties. There were things that were better then, there are things that are better now, you could argue either side and find plenty of subject matter.

    On the one world order thing... I find it tough to believe that clusterf*** of an election was organized from above or anywhere else. It was a grab bag of sleazery, but not well organized. There was probably more voter fraud than any time in recent history, but it'll never be proven.

    It might actually be better for the country if the fraud was as widespread as i suspect, cause the alternative would be that just over half our country is made up of retarded sumbitches that bought all that bs about republicans being racists that wage war on women. Hard to believe anyone actually bought that stuff, but you watch a few videos of people interviewing folks on the street and you quickly surmise the avg citizen is not that bright.
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  3. #33
    Factoid...obama did not carry those states that have voter id.
    Funny that in polling precincts where gop were not allowed to monitor, where the black panthers ran things, etc....obama hit 99%.

    Again look at the map of the USA and what is red and what is blue....shows that red got it all, but somehow the exact right states to get the exact right number of electoral votes had the right amount of blue.

    Plus of course our military could not vote in time because somehow the ballots either never went out, or went out very late.

    There will be a revolution in the USA....question is when and where it will start.
    For sure, blacks and latinos will not be for that revolution and will fight only for obama as he gives them stuff and power.

  4. #34
    From what I am hearing, The Dems focused their negative campaigning on a swing states and literally deluged people with phoney stories about Romney. We didn't see them in Texas or Arizona because the Dems didn't spend hardly any money in the states that were sure to vote Republican.

    It is obvious that there is only one reason for Holder to sue states with voter ID laws. Voter ID laws discourage fraudulent voting. We passed our Arizona voter ID law several years ago. Prior to that, the Dems would pull up on election day with busloads of illegals. Of course, they would have to coach the people about how to read the forms because none of them spoke English. I suspect we will not hear about any new states that Holder files suits against. After all, the election is over.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Factoid...obama did not carry those states that have voter id.
    Funny that in polling precincts where gop were not allowed to monitor, where the black panthers ran things, etc....obama hit 99%.

    Again look at the map of the USA and what is red and what is blue....shows that red got it all, but somehow the exact right states to get the exact right number of electoral votes had the right amount of blue.

    Plus of course our military could not vote in time because somehow the ballots either never went out, or went out very late.

    There will be a revolution in the USA....question is when and where it will start.
    For sure, blacks and latinos will not be for that revolution and will fight only for obama as he gives them stuff and power.
    This smells!!! Congressman Allen West had a lead of nearly 2000 votes until the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections “recounted” thousands of early ballots. After that “recount” Congressman West trailed by 2,400 votes.

    Congressman West is demanding a full count of absentee and provisional ballots and has filed a lawsuit to impound the voting machines.

    Critical questions are also being raised about the estimated 8,000 military absentee ballots, These ballots could decide the election but were only picked up on Wednesday. They are being counted in an area that is off-limits to observers, but no explanation has been given why. Unlike the damaged ballots, the military ballots are not being reproduced but only counted. Yet from a distance Ms. Snyder saw a worker marking them. When she tried to bring this to the attention Mrs. Bucher’s assistant she was ignored. Another observer saw four military ballots in a row being peremptorily invalidated with no explanation. When Ms. Snyder tried to ask Mrs. Bucher a question about what was happening “she looked like she wanted to spit she was so mad. She is very hostile.”

    Read more:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/9/allen-west-asks-recount-amid-growing-vote-count-sc/

    Our race is far from decided and there is no rush to declare an outcome. Ensuring a fair and accurate counting off all ballots is of the utmost importance. There are still tens of thousands of absentee ballots to be counted in Palm Beach County and potential provisional ballots across the district. Late last night Congressman West maintained a district wide lead of nearly 2000 votes until the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections “recounted” thousands of early ballots. Following that “recount” Congressman West trailed by 2,400 votes. In addition, there were numerous other disturbing irregularities reported at polls across St. Lucie County including the doors to polling places being locked when the polls closed in direct violation of Florida law, thereby preventing the public from witnessing the procedures used to tabulate results. The St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections office clearly ignored proper rules and procedures, and the scene at the Supervisor’s office last night could only be described as complete chaos. Given the hostility and demonstrated incompetence of the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections, we believe it is critical that a full hand recount of the ballots take place in St. Lucie County. We will continue to fight to ensure every vote is counted properly and fairly, and accordingly we will pursue all legal means necessary.

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  6. #36
    Good luck to Allen West. Its hard to win the game when the refs are also playing for the other team.
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    Update:
    There was a partial recount of 16,000 early ballots from 3 days in St. Lucie County. The revised numbers reduced Murphy's lead to 1,907 votes. A full recount of early ballots will no doubt further reduce Murphy's lead and 8,000 military absentee ballots still need to be counted.

    St. Lucie County's limited recount revised downward the totals for both West and the unofficial winner in the race, Democrat Patrick Murphy. Because Murphy lost more votes in the recount than West, it was a net gain for the Republican incumbent, though his margin of loss remained just above the threshold to order a full recount.
    St. Lucie's revised numbers, combined with previously reported numbers for the district's two other counties, had Murphy with a 50.3 percent share of the ballots, an overall lead of 1,907 votes. That margin of six-tenths of a percentage point is just above the half-percentage point threshold to order a full recount.

    West's campaign objected to the three days of early-voting ballots that were recounted, the absence of a full recount of early votes and the county's refusal to turn over some other documentation requested.


    http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-ne...ace-ar-561669/

    Update:
    The St. Lucie County Canvassing Board announced late Saturday it had set an “emergency meeting” to start at 7 a.m. Sunday at its headquarters, to “recount all ballots cast during early voting.” The number of early ballots is estimated by officials to be roughly 37,000.


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2BxZc3DDo


    Quote Originally Posted by robjones View Post
    Good luck to Allen West. Its hard to win the game when the refs are also playing for the other team.
    In the Allen West vs. Patrick Murphy Congressional race the turn-out was 141%. WTF!!!

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    Btw, Patrick Murphy, 29 was arrested in 2003 for disorderly intoxication and possessing a fake driver's license. Haha! Fake driver's license!

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    Gertrude Walker, Supervisor of Elections for St. Lucie County, said she is not sure why the Election Summary Report lists "Cards Cast" as 141%. "They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we've never seen that here," she said.

    Read more: St. Lucie County election results posted, after hours of delay
    Precinct 89, Morningside Library, was the last of 65 total precincts to be counted. The boxes containing the precinct's votes were left by a worker at the library, locked inside, according to Walker. "I'm not sure why he left them there," she said. "That's never happened to us before." The boxes were not brought in to the tabulation center until after midnight.
    Read more: St. Lucie County election results posted, after hours of delay

    Florida issued complete but unofficial results showing Murphy with a lead of 2,442 votes, or 50.4 percent. That's beyond the half-percent margin needed to trigger an automatic recount.

    Overseas and military ballots remain outstanding, but under state law the decision for a recount is based on Saturday's count.

    West's campaign insists there are many unanswered questions in the race, mostly centered in St. Lucie County, the only one of three counties in the district that Murphy won. They are concerned that votes were counted twice and have asked to review sign-in books from the polls to ensure the number of voters matched the ballot count.
    Fla. vote beyond recount range; West won't concede - Yahoo! News
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  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by robjones View Post
    Not sure why you ask, but the economy was better in the fifties. There were things that were better then, there are things that are better now, you could argue either side and find plenty of subject matter.
    My question is mainly about buying power per family. Back then a household had generally speaking one working member, the father. The mother spent more time with children. People saved money. New car every 10 years, one vacation per year etc.

    It seems back then life was more manageable while these days people cannot keep track over what they own and what they owe.

    The other thing is families being so in debt, two working parents seem to struggle and kids are left to be at the mercy of the public school system.

    It just bothers me that people spend so much time criticizing the school system (which of course is more than justified), but back in the days parents would visit the school board if they were not up to par and did their part to ensure their kids were learning what they should.

    In the 80s I remember the older folks talking about the decline from the 50s towards back then and looking back it seems they were right.

    There seemed to be more accountability, a sense of responsibility. Now special interest gets money thrown at them so they don't make noise.

    I just notice a dangerous pattern which, if it continues, will probably lead to a lot more trained helplessness resulting in politicians having an even easier time buying elections and the general population voting based on whoever promises to fix their own mess rather than sitting back and making an educated decision.
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  9. #39
    See, Allen West is smart!
    He knew he had won honestly, but the other side was cheating.
    He contested.

    Something that Romney and the republican party are not!
    Smart, not at all.

    He and the party should have contested everything starting Tuesday night!
    And kept contesting until the full story came out of the the democrats and obama cheating to win.

    Another reason we really need to drop the republican party. Start the conservative party and not allow rino's into the party.

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    Video of GOP chair on Allen West recount: ‘Something’s rotten in St. Lucie County’

    Bill Patterson, chairman of the St. Lucie County Republican Party, said county Elections Supervisor Gertrude Walker “cherry-picked” the dates for the Allen West recount.

    Earlier today the Allen West campaign said in a press release, “Gertrude Walker clearly runs most corrupt elections office in the state of Florida.”



    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dammann View Post
    My question is mainly about buying power per family. Back then a household had generally speaking one working member, the father. The mother spent more time with children. People saved money. New car every 10 years, one vacation per year etc.
    I recall Sean Hannity discussing this on his talk radio show. Back in the 1950s, people had suffered thru the Great Depression and WW2. All they were looking for was a Levittown style home and better life for their children.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Dammann View Post
    In the 80s I remember the older folks talking about the decline from the 50s towards back then and looking back it seems they were right.
    The 1970s was the decline due to the 1973-1975 recession and 1980 & 81-82 double dip. A lot of people never were able to recover. Three recession within 7 years.

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