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Thread: NRA uses Justice memo to accuse Obama admin of wanting to confiscate guns

  1. #31
    That is one drawback to conceal carry.
    An unstable person with a pistol in their possession and arrested by the police.

    I can go along with this as for sure I would not like to be a policeman hauling someone and they have a weapon I can not touch or did not know of.

  2. #32
    They are talking about a situation when they are transporting a person to a mental facility for evaluation, which means they may not have been arrested. If they are arrested, cops do have the right to confiscate a firearm.

    Cops should have the discretionary right to confiscate weapons from anyone they transport in a squad car. Period. I certainly would not want to transport a nutcase who was carrying a 44 mag and babbling about what a great president Obama has become.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  3. #33
    "McClelland said. "Someone, other than the police, should have to review that case or that incident requiring that mental evaluation, to tell me if this person is still qualified to own or carry a firearm" and get it back. When Houston police officers respond to a call involving a mentally disturbed person, they sometimes find the suspect armed with the same gun they seized in an earlier incident."

    I don't know perhaps it is just me, but could you please explain to me how a mentally disturbed person can own or carry a weapon?

  4. #34
    You have a gun legally because you are sane at the time you got your license.
    This is for those being transported for evaluation.

    Thus you have that gun legally, your wife thinks you have finally gone off the deep end and calls the cops.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Thus you have that gun legally, your wife thinks you have finally gone off the deep end and calls the cops.
    That sounds like the voice of experience.

    If the person is obviously nuts and they have a concealed carry permit, I think the permit can be revoked due to mental status, but it probably takes a judge to rule on that. The form that you use to apply for a background check and concealed carry permit does ask question about past mental history. Most nuts would lie, but that is all that is needed to revoke the permit if your lie is revealed in the future.

    Part of the issue may be the Texas gun laws. Texas has very strong laws that protect gun owners' rights, but they might not take situations like this into account.

    Beck in the 1980s, Texas was the only state where you could drive home from work while drinking a six-pack of beer with a loaded shotgun in the car--and it was perfectly legal for anyone to do this. The laws have changed since then, but Texas is still a state where gun rights are strong.

    Here in Arizona we are a concealed carry state, which means that anyone can carry a concealed weapon on their person or in their car, even if they do not have a permit. Cops can confiscate weapons without a judge's order in Arizona, so I suppose it depends upon how the laws are written. The law had a positive effect here, because crime went way down after the concealed carry law was passed.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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  7. #37
    Look what is going on in Canada with gun confiscation. Why isn't any of this being reported in the USA by the mainstream media?

    Registering for confiscation : News : SunNews Video Gallery
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  8. #38
    I agree with only one thing that could probably make a difference, is a background check for everybody buy a firearm. Now a national registration data base is a prelude of confiscation.

    When I see the gun violence task force chief VP Joe Biden saying that people should shoot with a 2 barrels shotgun through the door for self defense, it is not only irresponsible but also show a huge incompetency.

    How a gun violence task force chief could have credibility, if his advises are criminals?

  9. #39
    You all do realize that it has been on the books since like back in the 1930's for gun registration?
    If you have a machine gun, grenade launcher, and a few other weapons, you have them registered.
    Usually this just concerns FFL holders, since those are the people who can buy and sell machine guns.
    Gun ranges, most are run by someone with an FFL.

    One thing I stress, as it is something important....
    Don't be telling people all the great guns you have! And how much ammo you have!
    Keep it freaking close to your own body all this information.

    Another thing I learned from someone is never to keep all your guns and ammo in a gun safe.
    Again, bads guys and the government can just get that safe and leave you defenseless.

    Now, someone I know has like 2 shotguns, a 22 rifle and one bolt action with maybe a brick of ammo for each in his safe.
    All the rest he has salted around and ready for use.

  10. #40
    I don't really have a problem with each state issuing a gun owners card after a background check. I do have a problem with the Federal government doing it because they no longer represent the desires of the people. States are a lot closer to the local needs of the people. When I lived in Illinois in the 1970s I needed a gun owner's card in order to purchase firearms and ammunition, but the Illinois government did not track firearms transactions.

    There should be some qualifications for purchasing firearms, but your right to own firearms should not be based upon the whims of a government bureaucrat, as is the case with some veterans currently returning from war, as well as the situation where guns are being confiscated in Canada.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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