Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 49

Thread: NRA uses Justice memo to accuse Obama admin of wanting to confiscate guns

  1. #1

    NRA uses Justice memo to accuse Obama admin of wanting to confiscate guns

    The National Rifle Association is using a Justice Department memo it obtained to argue in ads that the Obama administration believes its gun control plans won’t work unless the government seizes firearms and requires national gun registration — ideas the White House has not proposed and does not support.The NRA’s assertion and its obtaining of the memo in the first place underscore the no-holds-barred battle under way as Washington’s fight over gun restrictions heats up.
    The memo, under the name of one of the Justice Department’s leading crime researchers, critiques the effectiveness of gun control proposals, including some of President Obama’s. A Justice Department official called the memo an unfinished review of gun violence research and said it does not represent administration policy.
    The memo says requiring background checks for more gun purchases could help, but also could lead to more illicit weapons sales. It says banning assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines produced in the future but exempting those already owned by the public, as Obama has proposed, would have limited impact because people now own so many of those items.
    It also says that even total elimination of assault weapons would have little overall effect on gun killings because assault weapons account for a limited proportion of those crimes.
    The nine-page document says the success of universal background checks would depend in part on “requiring gun registration,” and says gun buybacks would not be effective “unless massive and coupled with a ban.”
    The administration has not proposed gun registration, buybacks or banning all firearms. But gun registration and ownership curbs are hot-button issues for the NRA and other gun-rights groups, which strenuously oppose the ideas.
    Justice Department and White House officials declined to provide much information about the memo or answer questions about it on the record.
    The memo has the look of a preliminary document and calls itself “a cursory summary” and assessment of gun curb initiatives. The administration has not released it officially.
    But the NRA has posted the memo on one of its websites and cites it in advertising aimed at whipping up opposition to Obama’s efforts to contain gun violence. The ad says the paper shows that the administration “believes that a gun ban will not work without mandatory gun confiscation” and thinks universal background checks “won’t work without requiring national gun registration” — ideas the president has not proposed or expressed support for.
    NRA uses Justice memo to accuse Obama admin of wanting to confiscate guns - Washington Times

    It starts always with registration, and than the confiscation. People need to think about that...

  2. #2
    Pretty much a given that registration is nothing more than a prelude to confiscation. That's so well known at this point they will have trouble finding any law-abiding owners willing to play along with registration. The bad guys were never going to play along to begin with, so why should they be the only ones left armed when the smoke clears?
    -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. --

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    3,772
    Black leaders say gun control is "black people control" and criminals look for homes where a homeowner doesn't have a gun.


  4. #4
    Wow, did he ever get away from what the liberals think the official line is supposed to be. They may take away his black card.
    -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. --

  5. #5
    SOMEBODY has to have guns in every society. So who is to determine WHO is allowed to carry them?
    I am also a writer for Serpholic Media. You can find some of my articles here: Serpholic Media Blog

  6. #6
    According to the UN Arms Trade Treaty, no civilians will be allowed to own firearms. The next UN meeting is supposed to take place next month.

    Read this from 2009. This was Obama's position at that point, which contradicts what he has always said in public. Watch what he does, not what he says.

    U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade | Reuters

    And this from 2012, just a few days after the election.

    EDITORIAL: Gun ban back on Obama's agenda - Washington Times

    Fortunately, a treaty ratification requires a two-thirds approval from the Senate. He probably cannot get two-thirds of the Democrats to back civilian confiscation of firearms.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  7. #7
    Senate panel likely to vote on gun laws next week

    The Senate Judiciary Committee seems all but certain to start voting on an assault weapons ban and other gun curbs next week, Congress' first roll calls in response to the Newtown, Conn., slayings of 26 students and staff at an elementary school in December.

    Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., the committee chairman, said Monday that the panel would consider:
    The Democratic-written bills largely follow President Barack Obama's proposals for limiting gun violence, which have been opposed by the National Rifle Association and generated little support from congressional Republicans.

    -A bill by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., banning assault weapons and ammunition magazines holding more than 10 rounds;

    -A Leahy measure toughening federal penalties for illegal trafficking of guns, including up to 30-year sentences for people buying firearms they know will be used in crimes;

    -A measure by Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., increasing federal grants for school safety measures such as installing surveillance equipment.

    Leahy said the panel would also consider still evolving legislation expanding the requirement for federal background checks for gun purchases, which are now required only for transactions by federally licensed gun dealers. Requiring those checks for nearly all gun sales is a top Obama goal, and one that has received the broadest support by the public and in Congress.

    The details of the bill are not yet complete as liberal Sen. Charles Schumer of New York, the No. 3 Senate Democratic leader, continues trying to reach a compromise with conservative Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

    Leahy announced plans for the panel to start voting on the measures this Thursday. But committee rules let senators postpone announced legislative work for a week, a practice that is followed routinely. The panel's top Republican, Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, said he would request that delay.

    "It's just a process of making sure we have plenty of time to study" legislation, Grassley said in a brief interview.

    Feinstein is chairing a Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday on her effort to ban assault weapons, a proposal that is given low odds of enactment because of opposition by many Republicans and resistance by some moderate Democrats.

    Witnesses are to include Neil Heslin of Newtown, whose 6-year-old son, Jesse, was killed at the school and Dr. William Begg, an emergency room physician in Newtown who helped treat victims that day. Feinstein has said the public needs to know how gruesome assault weapons wounds can be.
    Senate panel likely to vote on gun laws next week - CBS News

    Interesting that they are going to put this on the floor.

  8. #8
    -A Leahy measure toughening federal penalties for illegal trafficking of guns, including up to 30-year sentences for people buying firearms they know will be used in crimes;
    Wow... bad day to be Eric Holder.
    -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. --

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by robjones View Post
    Wow... bad day to be Eric Holder.
    Nah. The guy who worked for him and did the investigation into Fast and Furious exonerated his boss.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  10. #10
    Senate Judiciary Cmte. Looks at Assault Weapons Ban (Live)
    Senate Judiciary Cmte. Looks at Assault Weapons Ban | C-SPAN





Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •