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    Should U.S. Politicians Be Required to Serve in the Military?

    So,
    After watching all the BS related to this today:
    General recalled to Washington after controversial remarks in article - CNN.com

    and reading
    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400044871?ie=UTF8&tag=appleipodchea-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creative ASIN=1400044871]Amazon.com: Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq's Green…[/ame]

    should we require U.S. politicians to serve 2 years in the National Guard or reserves?

    I'm just amazed at some of the things that we burn time/money on...while we're on what plan number 4 for Afghanistan??

    Oh well, will see how it pans out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by javanx3d View Post
    should we require U.S. politicians to serve 2 years in the National Guard or reserves?
    Service in the military isn't really required to be a politician. Most of the founding father weren't military men and Abraham Lincoln had no military experience.

    The problem is the American public in that they want their cake and to eat it too. The same people that elected Jimmy Carter voted for Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Doesn't make sense.

    What I would do is to require anyone receiving state and federal scholarships to serve at the same time in the Guard and Reserve and 2 more years afterward. They wouldn't receive any pay other than $25 a day stipend as they are already getting a free education. Drug test them too If the hippies don't like it, they can take the jobs that Americans don't want to do like landscaping, washing dishes and day labor work.

    Quote Originally Posted by javanx3d View Post
    I'm just amazed at some of the things that we burn time/money on...while we're on what plan number 4 for Afghanistan??

    Oh well, will see how it pans out.
    President Bush was smart to keep the troop level to around 28k men in Afghanistan. The only way to win the war is to keep fighting until you win. With a low troop level would sustain the fight indefinitely. Surge troops isn't going to do much as the taliban and other terrorists will just hide out and bide their time.

    The US also needs to fight cheaper. It's just costing too much money to send $1 million dollar missiles and $60 million F18 fighters planes to keep a couple of terrorists riding donkeys or camels.

    For instance, the US could start building the F-4 Corsair again. It got the job done in in WW2 and cost $500 an hour to fly as opposed to the F-18 costing $20k per hour. The F-4 has a range of 1015 miles and flies at a max speed of 417 mph.

    Forming a couple of calvary regiments would also help the war effort. Calvary can spread out off the road and are less of a target for roadside bombs. They can help patrol cities as well. Most major cities in the US still use mounted policeman.

    What we also need to do is get countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morocco, Turkey, Japan, South Korea, Kenya, Iraq and all these other countries taking American money to send troops. Just with the countries listed sending 4,000 each that would be 36,000 more troops.

    Germany should have at least 12,000 troops over there or we close all the US bases down. Lets see how they like that

    The bottom line is the current President is more interested in chilling out on vacation or hanging out with the cool people than wining the war.

    I bet Obama even forgot that a war was still going on until he read the article in Rolling Stone.









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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    I bet Obama even forgot that a war was still going on until he read the article in Rolling Stone.
    What would lead you to believe that he read the article? It doesn't appear that anyone in BO's administration read Arizona law SB1070, but that didn't stop anyone from condemning or misrepresenting it.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    What would lead you to believe that he read the article? It doesn't appear that anyone in BO's administration read Arizona law SB1070, but that didn't stop anyone from condemning or misrepresenting it.
    Correct! The only thing that Obama knows is what MSNBC tells him

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    I don't think that any politician who has served in the military will do a better job at running the country. I'd rather have a professor of economics for a president.

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    That's not the point. Bush Jr's time (sorta when he showed up) in the Air National Guard didn't really do us any favors. When the working class feels like the ruling elite (most in congress) don't know what war is like but loves to send them/us to do the dirty work, then the ruling class has lost touch with society (name > 10 congressmen or Senators who are not paper millionaires for some giggles..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by javanx3d View Post
    That's not the point. Bush Jr's time (sorta when he showed up) in the Air National Guard didn't really do us any favors. When the working class feels like the ruling elite (most in congress) don't know what war is like but loves to send them/us to do the dirty work, then the ruling class has lost touch with society (name > 10 congressmen or Senators who are not paper millionaires for some giggles..)
    Military pay isn't so bad when you consider the economy. The average enlisted man makes between 2k-3k a month not including allowances for dependent, clothing, combat pay etc. It actually good money for the people coming from rural areas and the Midwest.

    The biggest threat is coming from Iranian supplied explosive devices. Unfortunately, we're not bombing Iran in retaliation.

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    Should U.S. Politicians Be Required to Serve in the Military?
    No. One reason is that military service is not the only way to serve your country. Another reason, and probably the main one that makes me disagree, is that this would automatically exclude many citizens with physical impairments from holding a political office, or becoming the President of the United States. To join the military, there are physical requirements like height and weight, and they would probably refuse you if you've ever had an organ transplant, chronic asthma, cardiac arrhythmia, and many other health conditions. Therefore, we could technically be denying a chronic asthma sufferer the possibility of holding office. That just doesn't seem right. With that said, I would take the military record of a political candidate under consideration when voting, and would agree with the premise that we don't need elitists in office who have had life handed to them on a silver platter. Hope that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebecca View Post
    One reason is that military service is not the only way to serve your country.
    I don't believe that they US has ever had a war when the US President was a former general. I like the principle of peace through strength. Remember that the Berlin Wall fell without a shot being fired.

    Military services isn't necessary though. Many of the founding fathers didn't serve in the military.






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