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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    “Originally having a link to your site was a ‘vote’ for your page, but if you’re buying backlinks and putting them on less relevant sites, then Google is going to have to crack down.”

    If you take Matt Cutts literally, the focus might be on paid links. I interepret this as paid backlinks from unrelated web sites. Those types of links are more likely to be paid than they are to be natural.

    I know a guy who got one of these notices, but he had 27,000 backlinks, mostly from sites in India, Indonesia and Malaysia. He was paying a link building company who went a bit berserk with cheap link building. The warning showed up in his Webmaster Tools account.
    This is a good possibility that they will go after sites that have massive low quality links. This will be interesting to see if this is Panda 4.0 or a completely new update.

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    I think the crackdown has already began.

    I have this one site, which used to rank in the first page for a fairly competitive word. I got greedy and decided to build some cheap links to the page using social bookmarking.

    I gave the order 2-3 days back.

    Within hours of the work being started, my site was on 4th or 5th page.

    I just checked and now my site is on 17th page.

    I have never seen any page lose its rankings so fast.

    Google has definitely penalized the page. Interestingly, the rankings of all other pages of the site are unaffected.

    If quickly building a bunch of spammy links to a page can get it penalized so badly, I wonder if it can be used against sites of competitors. .
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    @sachin410, does the page use duplicate content? If not, check to see if someone has stolen the content from the page. That sounds like the page got snagged by the Panda filters.

    The duplicate content filters are still random. It can take a while before a page gets snagged. If someone with a stronger site stole the content, Google's algorithm may think that the thief's site is the original and your page got penalized. I have seen that happen.

    If a bunch of low-quality links that you previously set up have just been discounted by GoogleBot, the page could have sunk down to the natural rank position where it would normally be without the links.

    The reason that I ask is because I have never seen a site that got wacked that fast due to the addition of cheap social media links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    @sachin410, does the page use duplicate content? If not, check to see if someone has stolen the content from the page. That sounds like the page got snagged by the Panda filters.

    If a bunch of low-quality links that you previously set up have just been discounted by GoogleBot, the page could have sunk down to the natural rank position where it would normally be without the links.

    The reason that I ask is because I have never seen a site that got wacked that fast due to the addition of cheap social media links.
    The content on the page is 100% unique.

    There was no link to the page previously - at least none built by me. The site is a high-traffic, well-ranked site and sometimes pages get ranked without any links.

    Even I am surprised at the rate at which the page has fallen in the rankings. My page is now on page 21 in Google SERPs.

    Social bookmarking is one of my preferred methods to get cheap links and I had never had any such problems earlier.

    I am going to try out the same social bookmarking package for another page (on a different site) with similar competition and ranking.
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    There's an article on Google Gives Search a Refresh - WSJ.com saying that the new algorithm will "blend new semantic-search technology" into the current algorithm and semantic search could impact 10% to 20% of all search queries.

    In other words Google may start to show more direct answers from their Freebase and Metaweb acquisitions.

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    The content on the page is 100% unique.

    There was no link to the page previously - at least none built by me. The site is a high-traffic, well-ranked site and sometimes pages get ranked without any links.

    Even I am surprised at the rate at which the page has fallen in the rankings. My page is now on page 21 in Google SERPs.

    Social bookmarking is one of my preferred methods to get cheap links and I had never had any such problems earlier.

    I am going to try out the same social bookmarking package for another page (on a different site) with similar competition and ranking.
    I don't believe that the new Google crackdown has started. This happens all the time with new sites or pages. You should try adding some authority links to increase the flow of PR into the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    I don't believe that the new Google crackdown has started. This happens all the time with new sites or pages. You should try adding some authority links to increase the flow of PR into the page.
    sachin410, I concur with bogart. Try to find a couple of good links from sites that focus on the same topic as the page that you are concerned about. It is not unusual for an article to initially rank well, but then drop to a more natural position. Iit would, however, be unusual for the rankings to tank just because you pointed some low-quality social media links at the page.
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    I'm starting to find some "new" direct answers. Appears Google is testing this.

    5 answers appear at the top of the page with links to Google search results and the following at the bottom of the search:Drawn from at least 10 websites, including livestrong.com and wikipedia.org - How this works

    This appears to be designed to increase revenue as all the links are Google search results heavy with above the fold adwords ads.

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    When a page or site drops down in the serps?
    It in most cases is just a natural thing.
    So much new stuff hits the net every single second, that old stuff in many cases is devalued.

    I have found that webmasters who see a drop in page rank, a drop in the serps?
    Love to go on forums and cry and whine about it!
    And blame google, this, that, everything but themselves.

    I am old school.
    Post and move on.
    Do not worry, do not obsess, about page rank and serps and whether the next poster in a forum likes you or not.

    Because to me, it is all about traffic!

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    I just had to take down my automated Amazon affiliate sites that used the Amazon XML feed. Google completely de-indexed a couple of sites and was in the process of de-indexing the others. I'm sure it was due to the duplicate content issue. These sites have produced income for 7 years and have survived past Google assaults, but it looks like they are getting hit now.

    It looks like their new algorithms are going after a lot of different types of sites.

    I have several other sites that use data feeds from AvantLink, the Google Affiliate Network and others. They are not getting de-indexed.

    This raises two thoughts:

    1. Are they specifically targeting Amazon affiliate sites that use the XML feed?

    2. Will they go after the sites using data feeds from their own affiliate network?
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


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