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    Jim Karter's way...

    For those who don't know what I'm talking about, click here. After you've read that, come back and discuss.

    Is that the right way of doing it? Has it proven to be successful? What I find most interesting is the waiting... I guess it makes sense. You shouldn't add 1000 articles on the first day. The site should grow old a bit.

    The first step is interesting... One page, one link, wait one month. Anyone tried?

    Anyway, share your thoughts.

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    The problem with adding to many pages on the 1st day is that the site doesn't have enough PR to have all the pages indexed. So you are basically wasting your time and money on the content creation.

    Link building strategy will also vary somewhat for a business website as opposed to a article site.

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    The entire method is flawed in different angles.

    1. It relies heavily on one type of links i.e directory links, which are pretty much an antique promotion method.
    2. Even if you did send one link to each sub-page, there's still a huge chance of these pages going into the supplemental index.
    3. There's nothing unique or special about this method i.e JimKarter just mentions a timeline and says, submit to this directory, send link request emails etc.,

    I believe this method could have worked 5 years back, but today there are more powerful methods of promotion and link building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    I believe this method could have worked 5 years back, but today there are more powerful methods of promotion and link building.
    Do you mind elaborating on that a bit more?

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    Well, it sounds interesting, but I'd like to see an example of a site for which he's followed that plan.

    This reminded me of his eChemotherapy site, which he was presenting as a case study; it's been a while now since I last visited it, but I've just been back there to have another look, and I noticed that the PageRank has gone to "Unranked"... very strange...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    The entire method is flawed in different angles.

    1. It relies heavily on one type of links i.e directory links, which are pretty much an antique promotion method.
    2. Even if you did send one link to each sub-page, there's still a huge chance of these pages going into the supplemental index.
    3. There's nothing unique or special about this method i.e JimKarter just mentions a timeline and says, submit to this directory, send link request emails etc.,

    I believe this method could have worked 5 years back, but today there are more powerful methods of promotion and link building.
    The directory links as just a part of the linkbuilding strategy. I agree with you that the paid directories don't give the same bang for the buck. But you can see that after around 6 months after the website has been seeded paid content-embedded links are used.

    The variety of links in the strategy:

    a directory, a blog post, a social networking site (per article)
    20 article submissions
    1000 free directory list
    3-way link exchanges
    paid content-embedded links
    paid directories
    directory network links

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    I would not follow his method. Basically, its a waste of time at first. Let your site sit their while you do other SEO optimization. I usually would add one or two articles a day. It has helped. I have actually tried it in the past, and it did help. I was very close to the PR update date and on that update my site hit PR. Some link building with other sites did help as well.

  8. This is seriously weird, it's like he just made up that post and the whole idea as a joke. Sure it can work, but there is little logic to the whole thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by DomainMagnate View Post
    This is seriously weird, it's like he just made up that post and the whole idea as a joke. Sure it can work, but there is little logic to the whole thing
    Jim Karter has a staff of people working for him. So part of the process is seeding the sites before he puts them into production. At that point the production people start wrtiting the articles and do the link building.

    I do something similiar. I don't really have time for publishing so I don't have much choice. What I do is to 1) create mini site 2) link building 3) authority - build authority on keyword 4) build out site.

    I have two sites that I am working on. Both sites are already #2 for their targeted keywords. The down side is that they have been sitting there for 2 years

    At the same time as building out the two sites, I am putting a few more in the pipeline that I will develop next year.

    The difference is that Jim Karter is doing this faster and on a larger scale.

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    Following up my earlier post:

    His example website, echemotherapy.com, has (still) got a PageRank of "unranked", and it doesn't show up in the first few pages of the Google SERPs for "echemotherapy" (indeed, the pages appear to have been removed from the index). Furthermore, his main site has a PageRank of zero.

    What's up with that? Has he been punished by Google? Or am I missing something?

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