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    Link Buying Tips

    With Google cracking down on link buying, those of us who do invest in link buying are going to have to buy links a lot smarter if we intend to continue to see an RoI (Return on Investment) from our link buying activities.

    Directories

    I believe that Google is actively attempting to discount links from directories.

    But with prices as low as $43 for 1,000 directory submissions, I still have most of my sites submitted to the directories.

    Article Sites

    I believe that Google is actively attempting to discount links from article sites.

    When I have articles that I can't publish on my own sites, I send them off to be manually submitted to article sites.

    At $8 per submission, it builds some very inexpensive links.

    Links on Links Pages

    I believe that Google is actively attempting to discount links on links pages.

    I've bought a bunch of bulk links in the past where most of the links ended up on links pages.

    I consider the money I spent on those to be wasted.

    Sponsored Blog Posts

    I was an early adopter of sponsored blog posts. I am backing away from that now.

    Why? Because of link labeling (see below) and because of the quality of sites selling blog posts.

    Most of the sites selling blog posts are only selling blog posts. A link-level analysis from Google would be able to identify a huge list of potential link buyers. Then, a reverse analysis would identify a huge list of additional link sellers. After a few iterations, Google would have a good idea of every URL involved. A dampening filter would be easy to implement.

    Do I believe that Google is doing this? I would if I were Google.

    I would still love to buy blog posts -- on blogs which are not regularly participating on selling blog posts. That's similar to the key to other types of link buying -- doing things a bit differently from your peers.

    Link Labeling

    Many links sellers are following Google's guidelines and labeling paid links.

    I do not buy links from anyone who labels them as paid links.

    Link Locations

    I believe that Google is actively attempting to discount "footer" and "sidebar" links.

    Because of CSS, Google can't really tell that a link is in the footer. They can, however, easily discount links which are not surrounded by text.

    I am focusing now on buying on in-content links and I believe this is going to be absolutely critical in the future.

    Link Destinations

    From what I am seeing, but without a good scientific-level analysis, it appears that deep links are doing me a lot better than homepage links.

    One Domain, One Vote

    I am currently operating under the assumption that Google heavily discounts multiple links from one domain to another domain.

    As a result, I try to only purchase one link for each of my domains from each domain belonging to a link seller.

    With so many link resellers operating now, I have not always been successful at this!

    IP Addresses

    I am currently operating under the assumption that Google does not discount multiple links from the same IP address range.

    I could be wrong.

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    Content Links

    I believe that Google is actively attempting to discount content links.

    Repeat after me...

    I believe that Google is actively attempting to discount...



    Just kidding, they are good tips. But I wonder what happens when Google starts to discount every link they see... Will SEO become incredibly difficult one day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by webmarketer88 View Post
    I wonder what happens when Google starts to discount every link they see... Will SEO become incredibly difficult one day?
    Google's task will be more difficult. Links are the most important of the "over two hundred" factors Google uses to determine rankings. When Google stops trusting links, it becomes truly adrift.

    I believe that SEO is becoming more difficult every year. As a result, the value (and prices) of paid links is rising. It's a classic application of the law of supply and demand. Demand rises and pushes pricing up. In turn, these increased prices will encourage more people to sell links -- until enough sellers enter the market for equilibrium to be achieved once again.
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    IP Addresses

    I am currently operating under the assumption that Google does not discount multiple links from the same IP address range.

    I could be wrong.
    aha, I heard the reverse thing..

    Different C-class ip links are better than same IP links...

    I am sure you are joking

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    No one really knows either way.

    I have done some testing with multiple domains on the same IP and I could detect no penalty.

    But, perhaps there is only a manual penalty and Google just hasn't gotten around to penalizing me yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    No one really knows either way.

    I have done some testing with multiple domains on the same IP and I could detect no penalty.

    But, perhaps there is only a manual penalty and Google just hasn't gotten around to penalizing me yet...
    I would agree on this considering the number of websites on shared hosting accounts. Google would definitely need to reconsider a penalty via algorithmic code.

    But then again this method could also be considered if there would be a number of sites on a specific ip or ip range who indeed deserves to be penalized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post

    IP Addresses

    I am currently operating under the assumption that Google does not discount multiple links from the same IP address range.

    I could be wrong.
    This is the only issue in link building I am trying to figure out. I hope someday I will be able to find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5starpix View Post
    This is the only issue in link building I am trying to figure out. I hope someday I will be able to find out.
    You could set up a test, or a series of tests.

    One test might look like this:

    1. Start with two web sites on one IP address. We'll call them Site A and Site B.
    2. Create a page on Site A and don't link to it from any other page on Site A. The page should contain a string of random characters.
    3. Create a link to that page from Site B.
    4. Wait a few weeks and then use Google to search for that string of random characters.

    If Google returns the page, then you will know at least that Google gives some notice to links on the same IP.

    You could design a number of other tests to learn different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    You could set up a test, or a series of tests.

    One test might look like this:

    1. Start with two web sites on one IP address. We'll call them Site A and Site B.
    2. Create a page on Site A and don't link to it from any other page on Site A. The page should contain a string of random characters.
    3. Create a link to that page from Site B.
    4. Wait a few weeks and then use Google to search for that string of random characters.
    If Google returns the page, then you will know at least that Google gives some notice to links on the same IP.

    You could design a number of other tests to learn different things.

    Yeah, I might give it a go. The only thing I don't like is the
    "waiting for a few weeks part" lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    No one really knows either way.

    I have done some testing with multiple domains on the same IP and I could detect no penalty.

    But, perhaps there is only a manual penalty and Google just hasn't gotten around to penalizing me yet...
    There is no penalty, but if you want to get ranked for a competitive phrase, you need to have links coming from multiple sources (IP addresses) as to look natural. However, you can buy hosting that gives you multiple C block addresses to host your network of sites on. That way to the search engines, all the links are coming from unique sites, and not all from one network.

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