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    Spain/España webmasters?

    Are there any Spain webmasters on Netbuilders? Would you like to develop contacts with other Spain webmasters? Reply to this thread and maybe we can help each other.

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    Hola elbandolero,

    I focus on bilingual stuff and am in contact with several webmasters from Spain, Latam and the US. Let me know if I can be of help.

    Will, that's a pretty neat list. I'd like to add my friend senormunoz to the list, who also became a netbuilder

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    Thanks Will and GlobalFusion

    I'll PM each of those people and let them know about this thread.

    Let me get straight to the point of why I think Spain webmasters should help each other. Getting backlinks from non-Spain or non-Spanish websites doesn't always help because most of the top ranking Spain or Spanish websites seem to have highly relevant backlinks from networks that they own or are part of. It is difficult for smaller webmasters to compete with these networks.

    I have also found that Spanish people are different from English speaking people so simply translating an English article into Spanish won't always appeal to them. In a lot of cases content should be written specifically to appeal to their needs. Culturally, and the way we think, we're different. I have no doubt that Mexicans, Colmbians, Argentinians etc are also different from people in the US/UK.

    So, this thread is about bringing webmasters who own sites relating to Spain, LatAm, or written in Spanish together so that we can help each other with specific SEO, content, and networking.

    I own a small network of 7 sites in tourism/learning English in Spain, and I am in contact with around 100 webmasters in Spain, most of whom have similar sized networks, but a few own large networks with hundreds of sites. Some of us have been talking about creating a private by request forum for Spain and Spanish webmasters.

    Hey Will, would you like to host a sub-forum which is definitely private, and focusing exclusively on Spain, LatAm, and Spanish? To attract the biggest range of webmasters, translators, writers, SEO etc it would need to also be in Castellano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    Hey Will, would you like to host a sub-forum which is definitely private, and focusing exclusively on Spain, LatAm, and Spanish? To attract the biggest range of webmasters, translators, writers, SEO etc it would need to also be in Castellano.
    I think that would be fabulous.
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    Yes, how Will said, i develop sites in spanish too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbandelero View Post
    Getting backlinks from non-Spain or non-Spanish websites doesn't always help because most of the top ranking Spain or Spanish websites seem to have highly relevant backlinks from networks that they own or are part of. It is difficult for smaller webmasters to compete with these networks.
    That really depends on your target. Links from Spain won't help that much if you are trying to rank sites in a South American country. On the other side of the coin, Spanish webmasters always complain about not being able to rank their .es sites outside Spain. Getting into the US market is a challenge of major proportions for many of them. That's why you don't normally see Spaniard sites showing up in the local US ranking.

    I agree with you though that blog networks is in when it comes to ranking sites in Spanish. However, a lot of them are penalized too.

    I have also found that Spanish people are different from English speaking people so simply translating an English article into Spanish won't always appeal to them. In a lot of cases content should be written specifically to appeal to their needs. Culturally, and the way we think, we're different. I have no doubt that Mexicans, Colmbians, Argentinians etc are also different from people in the US/UK.
    I got a team of content writers from several of the 22 Spanish speaking countries, yet not all them are at the point of writing content in neutral Spanish that appeals to the masses. If you are going for the Madrilence market, then you'll need to localize your content even more.

    Translating content from English to Spanish might not be cost effective if what you are looking for is content in bulk. At 6 cents per word, average payment for a decent translator from Latam & Spain, your 700 word article will cost you $42. I can provide the same or even better quality content for a cheaper price, written by native writers with professional degrees.

    Hey Will, would you like to host a sub-forum which is definitely private, and focusing exclusively on Spain, LatAm, and Spanish? To attract the biggest range of webmasters, translators, writers, SEO etc it would need to also be in Castellano.
    Several other forums had made several attempts to attract the crowds, but they all failed. You'll have to make it extremely appealing for an Spanish native speaker to come and hang out in a private forum when there are several other forums in Spanish. I bought Spanish Pros to create a similar community, but have been busy with other projects and upgrading servers. However, we're planning to go ahead with that project soon. It will be nice to see something here too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalFusion View Post
    I got a team of content writers from several of the 22 Spanish speaking countries, yet not all them are at the point of writing content in neutral Spanish that appeals to the masses. If you are going for the Madrilence market, then you'll need to localize your content even more.

    Translating content from English to Spanish might not be cost effective if what you are looking for is content in bulk. At 6 cents per word, average payment for a decent translator from Latam & Spain, your 700 word article will cost you $42. I can provide the same or even better quality content for a cheaper price, written by native writers with professional degrees.
    Very interested in knowing more, especially prices, though my focus is on Spain, rather than LatAm. Here in Andalucía there are some curious ways of writing, but generally standard Castellano is fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalFusion View Post
    Several other forums had made several attempts to attract the crowds, but they all failed. You'll have to make it extremely appealing for an Spanish native speaker to come and hang out in a private forum when there are several other forums in Spanish. I bought Spanish Pros to create a similar community, but have been busy with other projects and upgrading servers. However, we're planning to go ahead with that project soon. It will be nice to see something here too.
    Disappointing to hear that, however I can probably attract close to a hundred expat webmasters who write in English about Spain, and they can probably introduce the same number of Spanish webmasters, after that I guess it depends on how much value people get from it. That's something only Will can answer, but even if the forum is only a place to ask for link exchanges it will still have value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.Spencer View Post
    Who am I missing?
    Me.

    Yo hablo un poquito español también... bale, castellano que seja.

    Afterall I live in Portugal.

    (Oh, and sorry for my spelling mistakes... if any. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenron View Post
    Me.

    Yo hablo un poquito español también... bale, castellano que seja.

    Afterall I live in Portugal.

    (Oh, and sorry for my spelling mistakes... if any. )
    bale, what is that word? Did you mean vale?

    My own Spanish is terrible, though everyone understands me, and I can communicate with almost everyone I meet, but I sound like a guiri, and will never write Spanish articles. They can spot a non-native as easily as we can.

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