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[quote name='lifeplayer' date='06 June 2010 - 07:10 PM' timestamp='1275811846' post='16946']
I agree if you are talking about low competition keyword or keyword phrase.
If your site is just high competition keyword such as webmaster forum, casino etc , i afraid it not going to happen.
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If your domain is webmasterforum.com, then you wouldn't really need to worry about SERPs, rather enjoying the amount of direct traffic (mostly accidental), as its something generic and memorable.
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[quote name='David' date='06 June 2010 - 10:20 AM' timestamp='1275819629' post='16961']
If your domain is webmasterforum.com, then you wouldn't really need to worry about SERPs, rather enjoying the amount of direct traffic (mostly accidental), as its something generic and memorable.
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I not sure about this but just check on the webmasterforum.com, the alexa ranking is 1116773 which is much lower than admin community.
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[quote name='lifeplayer' date='07 June 2010 - 03:01 AM' timestamp='1275840104' post='16980']
I not sure about this but just check on the webmasterforum.com, the alexa ranking is 1116773 which is much lower than admin community.
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Alexa isn't the best way to see the amount of traffic a site gets. Plus, it was only an example. Never meant for it to be reality.
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[quote name='David' date='07 June 2010 - 07:13 AM' timestamp='1275894829' post='17009']
Alexa isn't the best way to see the amount of traffic a site gets. Plus, it was only an example. Never meant for it to be reality.
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I agreed that alexa ranking is not accurate enough but i dont think that's so much tolerant.
I do this research before, and very hard to get a domain name with high competitive keyword can rank #1 in SERP. However, my focus mostly on manufacturing niche, and most of the high competitive keyword, wikipedia seems monopoly the #1. Maybe you can helps to show me few example from other niche
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[quote name='lifeplayer' date='07 June 2010 - 08:08 PM' timestamp='1275901710' post='17013']
I agreed that alexa ranking is not accurate enough but i dont think that's so much tolerant.
I do this research before, and very hard to get a domain name with high competitive keyword can rank #1 in SERP. However, my focus mostly on manufacturing niche, and most of the high competitive keyword, wikipedia seems monopoly the #1. Maybe you can helps to show me few example from other niche
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Sure, some are simple sites like:
-Help.com (Help)
-ask.com (Ask)
-business.com (does alternate with Wikipedia, but has appeared as #1 before)
-directory.google.com (directory)
-linkdirectory.com (link directory)
-webdirectory.com (web directory)
-(most of the search engines)
-(most of the social networks, eg. facebook.com)
There are many more, and some
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i guess it will always rank with a keyword "admin community"
i suggest you should at least try to rank in "webmasters forum"
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[quote name='David' date='07 June 2010 - 11:51 AM' timestamp='1275911519' post='17018']
Sure, some are simple sites like:
-Help.com (Help)
-ask.com (Ask)
-business.com (does alternate with Wikipedia, but has appeared as #1 before)
-directory.google.com (directory)
-linkdirectory.com (link directory)
-webdirectory.com (web directory)
-(most of the search engines)
-(most of the social networks, eg. facebook.com)
There are many more, and some
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lol.......Check on their baclink, they all have tons of quality backlink, not the damain name itself make them into the #1, i think you know about this since you are IT/SEO guys.
And directory.google.com is subdomain, and it works better than directory.com, why this happen? because of the backlink
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[quote name='lifeplayer' date='08 June 2010 - 01:01 PM' timestamp='1275962499' post='17050']
lol.......Check on their baclink, they all have tons of quality backlink, not the damain name itself make them into the #1, i think you know about this since you are IT/SEO guys.
And directory.google.com is subdomain, and it works better than directory.com, why this happen? because of the backlink
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Lol, you need optimized backlinks to get to the number one spot. Otherwise, its impossible. The domain itself can rarely rank number 1 if you don't have optimized links (we assume for SERPs). You NEED optimized backlinks to get a good SERPs.
directory.google.com is identical to directory.mozilla.org (now, dmoz.org). It was just an example of a variable domain.
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[quote name='David' date='08 June 2010 - 07:35 AM' timestamp='1275982558' post='17056']
The domain itself can rarely rank number 1 if you don't have optimized links (we assume for SERPs)
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Totally agree and this is what exactly what i trying to say.
And that's why i dont agree with the below
[quote name='David' date='06 June 2010 - 10:20 AM' timestamp='1275819629' post='16961']
If your domain is webmasterforum.com, then you wouldn't really need to worry about SERPs, rather enjoying the amount of direct traffic (mostly accidental), as its something generic and memorable.
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[quote name='lifeplayer' date='08 June 2010 - 09:53 PM' timestamp='1275994422' post='17057']
Totally agree and this is what exactly what i trying to say.
And that's why i dont agree with the below
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Like you quoted, I said you don't need to worry about SERPs because you have a lot of direct traffic. SERPs is not direct traffic. Direct traffic is from browsers, or live RSS feeds.
