Idiots destroying tech-faq

[Keldorn]

I'm not sure if all 800 visitors(Clickers) get through. Google-analytics always shows significantly lesser visits from tech-faq than the clickthrough stats shown on tech-faq . Maybe some get blocked en-route before they get a chance to even see the proxy? (And thus trigger analytics)

Some people might not be loading it either,
I actually use noscript and dont allow googleananlytic.com .Google these days is turning into spyware. I need take back some of my privacy.
If you could imagine with G.analytical and adsense on almost every website out there, and using Google.com search engine everyday. They could track your every move on the internet. How scary is that? No thanks.

[Rizy]

I would like to thank Will for Tech-FAQ. And don't understand why people still complain when it's a simple concept. If you can't beat them, join them. I read through all 10 pages of this during a movie in class and wrote down 2 points that make no sense:

- $.10 / c = if you're going to complain about your profits and you are only getting that much a click you really need to look into your words on your front page. A lot of you people (newer) expect that oh this is easy I'll jump right in and make money. But, it's not that easy. And because it's not that easy, you feel it's someone elses fault. Although it's yours because you don't see what you are getting yourself into.

- Hoarding. By releasing more proxies, new proxies, it is exposing one to have more options to pick from when it comes to being anonymous. This is in my mind, and in my mind what Will wants. If you have to tell him how to run his site, what you think, and how it should be done - go establish something like this your self. It's not going to be that easy. Look at traffic from other sites, and what country it's coming from. You will realize that Tech-FAQ does have an abundant amount of quality traffic which is from Wills work.

- If Tech-FAQ is your only source of traffic, that is also a problem. Look into other ideas, and sites. It's not something you are going to learn overnight, but you WILL have to gamble a little bit. If you're going to whine because you lose money on the submission fee, then you're doing something wrong because I know for a fact I profit from submitting on there and that is from a 12-month constant and since it switched to coupon standpoint.

Cheers to you all who I have come talk to over the past year, and goodluck to everyone who is trying. Nothing is going to come easy. I don't like forums much, but if you want to talk or have questions feel free to shoot me a PM.

oh, and whoever copied about 200 of my .info domains with .co.cc - you do what you gotta do, but seriously..

[iHate]

around 7 months ago i could make around $40 Profit by submitting 40 of my proxys
nowa days its a Profit of more like $3 - 5 by submitting 40 i used to get around 800 - 1k
clicks on 1 submission now its hard for me to get 200 - 300 !

(When i say 40 submissions i mean that over 1 week)

I am not going to complain to Will about the amount the co.cc'ers
but the amount of traffic in tech-faq has dropped (i have only recently
rejoined the proxy niche but from what i see tech-faq is going down hill
i think will you should either ban the co.cc or raise the prices.

You can say your freedom of this and that

But the Fact remains proxy owners will diminish at the moment
we have maybe 20 - 30 people submitting to tech-faq
that will probably go down to lets say 5 - 10 then there will be no complaining
but then your giving the customer more choice idea goes out of the window
to help the customer you must help the manufacturer (the manufacturer = the
proxy makers)(customers = proxy surfers)

[Nathan]

around 7 months ago i could make around $40 Profit by submitting 40 of my proxys
nowa days its a Profit of more like $3 - 5 by submitting 40 i used to get around 800 - 1k
clicks on 1 submission now its hard for me to get 200 - 300 !

(When i say 40 submissions i mean that over 1 week)

I am not going to complain to Will about the amount the co.cc'ers
but the amount of traffic in tech-faq has dropped (i have only recently
rejoined the proxy niche but from what i see tech-faq is going down hill
i think will you should either ban the co.cc or raise the prices.

You can say your freedom of this and that

But the Fact remains proxy owners will diminish at the moment
we have maybe 20 - 30 people submitting to tech-faq
that will probably go down to lets say 5 - 10 then there will be no complaining
but then your giving the customer more choice idea goes out of the window
to help the customer you must help the manufacturer (the manufacturer = the
proxy makers)(customers = proxy surfers)

That's interesting. I did my own case study on TF. I submitted a total of three proxies and across Adsense, Adbrite and CPALead after a week I had made a total of $15 plus some subscribers to my proxy list. Seems like I got a fairly good ROI.

[Szise]

around 7 months ago i could make around $40 Profit by submitting 40 of my proxys
nowa days its a Profit of more like $3 - 5 by submitting 40 i used to get around 800 - 1k
clicks on 1 submission now its hard for me to get 200 - 300 !

(When i say 40 submissions i mean that over 1 week)

I am not going to complain to Will about the amount the co.cc'ers
but the amount of traffic in tech-faq has dropped (i have only recently
rejoined the proxy niche but from what i see tech-faq is going down hill
i think will you should either ban the co.cc or raise the prices.

You can say your freedom of this and that

But the Fact remains proxy owners will diminish at the moment
we have maybe 20 - 30 people submitting to tech-faq
that will probably go down to lets say 5 - 10 then there will be no complaining
but then your giving the customer more choice idea goes out of the window
to help the customer you must help the manufacturer (the manufacturer = the
proxy makers)(customers = proxy surfers)

Without an intervention the things will be how i said.
You can make a daily return, the key is to buy coupons and submit many proxies, doesn't matter the quality, just start with 100 co.cc, submit more than 10, 20 daily, keep them 2 days and make another proxies. Is the only way you can make a return with a proxy not "sexy, finance, MFA sites".
The free market Tech Faq will not regulate itself, will be regulated by few bulk submitters and spammed with low quality proxies.
The users can't regulate the proxy market because they must try and click all proxies and ads before knowing if the proxy is good or not.
So the only motivation to keep this system without regulations, bad for both, proxy owners and users are the earnings from coupon sales.

[MeetHere]

really sad.
hope it's all good now.. i mean files are safe.

[Aussie]

I do have one suggestion for the co.cc domains.. maybe you could truncate them if they are longer than say 30 characters as some of the people are posting reaaaaaaly long ones lately that take up 2 lines and are breaking the layout so you can't see the stats..

Should be simple enough to do..

Also the person doing it is the one using the redirects to another domain so maybe if it detects the truncation when listing it should go into some kind of recheck queue that checks that domain periodically to see if it is really going to the domain it is listed for.

Aus

[Will.Spencer]

we have maybe 20 - 30 people submitting to tech-faq

I just counted submissions from 60 different people in the last six days.

So the only motivation to keep this system without regulations, bad for both, proxy owners and users are the earnings from coupon sales.

Suggest a regulation which is good for the proxy users, and is technically feasable and I'll have it implemented.

I am damned tired of the #1 suggestion I hear being "You should ban my competitors!"

I do have one suggestion for the co.cc domains.. maybe you could truncate them if they are longer than say 30 characters as some of the people are posting reaaaaaaly long ones lately that take up 2 lines and are breaking the layout so you can't see the stats..

That's a good idea. I'll put in a request to have that added to the code.

Also the person doing it is the one using the redirects to another domain so maybe if it detects the truncation when listing it should go into some kind of recheck queue that checks that domain periodically to see if it is really going to the domain it is listed for.

I haven't been running the proxy check script nearly enough. By next week, that script should be confirmed mature enough to run automatically. That should really reduce the profit of the people who are registering and then redirecting. Attacking cheaters pocketbooks seems to be the only way to keep them in line.

[Szise]

Suggest a regulation which is good for the proxy users, and is technically feasable and I'll have it implemented.

Allowing few spots for old and stable proxies with weekly/monthly payment. Old proxies still work for % of the users, should't be excluded this posibility, sponsored proxies.

On the other hand there is no guarantee that all proxies submitted to Tech-Faq are brand new.

5 spots X 25$ / week = 125 $ weekly from old/stable proxies = 500 $ month, 10 spots = 1.000 / month.

An alternative

Rising the price to 10 $ / submission and stopping the coupon sales in the future. (not so good because i think there are many coupons on the market), this is a very good rule if we start all from zero.

I don't want to ban my competitors, i want to limit the number of submissions somehow as much as possible, we will pay more but the traffic should increase a lot. The main reason, the traffic dropped too much, Tech Faq was an important source of income for me, if 100 $ monthly or 150 $ can be so important in some situations.

[Glypus]

I would like the "popular proxies" section to be removed as it contains old proxies contrary to tech-faq's motto of fresh unblocked proxy sites and replaced with a (Suggestion) "Fastest new proxies" section which lists proxies submitted in last 7 days in order of speed (Periodically randomized to give equal opportunity for different sites with equal speed). Technically feasible?

I am damned tired of the #1 suggestion I hear being "You should ban my competitors!"

While I wouldn't ask for my competitors to be banned. I would like it if I who submit just one or two proxies a day didn't get drowned out by people who submit lots more proxies every day facilitated by free co.cc domains. Some sort of regulation on the number of co.cc proxies submittable per day by a single person would have been nice. I know it won't be done, just some wishful thinking.

I could show examples of a few proxy list sites that were great before and are near useless now from a proxy webmaster point-of-view as they have zillions of co.cc submissions that reduce traffic per proxy to under 5 or 10 and greatly reduce any incentive to submit proxies there (Unless you mass-submit or autosubmit co.cc proxies yourselves). While tech-faq hasn't gone down to that level because of much more traffic and better regulation, it has been affected nonetheless (From a non co.cc, non mass producing proxy webmaster point of view).