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    Forum Link Siignatures

    I was recently on my Google webmaster tool and found that Google torched all my forum signature links

    Is it just me or Google just killed these links? I remember that Matt Cutts said a link is a link, apparently not anymore.

    Thanks Google
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    Forum links haven't been all that effective in years. They are more useful as a way of getting like minded people to your site if you participate on a forum in your niche. But, for SEO purposes, forum spam made forum links useless.

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    Hi,

    Sad but true. I have found that forum links are only good when you first join a forum. Then members will check your site out just to see who you are. You might get some regular users to your site from that. But after awhile hits from forums have dropped for me.

    Google has never given much weight to sig links over the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mafiamaster View Post
    Forum links haven't been all that effective in years. They are more useful as a way of getting like minded people to your site if you participate on a forum in your niche. But, for SEO purposes, forum spam made forum links useless.
    Forums link signatures are effective if related to your subject. In my case, I am not talking about webmaster forums but rather other forums I posted or sponsored in my niche that disappeared from my WMT control panel.

    I am not surprise that Google did that, they are going after everything that is not in their NEW monthly guideline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    I was recently on my Google webmaster tool and found that Google torched all my forum signature links

    Is it just me or Google just killed these links? I remember that Matt Cutts said a link is a link, apparently not anymore.
    A lot of forums have been adding the nofollow tag to signature links.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mafiamaster View Post
    Forum links haven't been all that effective in years. They are more useful as a way of getting like minded people to your site if you participate on a forum in your niche. But, for SEO purposes, forum spam made forum links useless.
    Signature links and profile links still have value. But forums have gotten so big and have millions of signatures. So, you only end up with what is equivalent to a grain of sand from a beach.

    A good point that you made about the niche forums. The signature links are more likely to have a higher ctr and deliver targeted traffic.

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    Used to be, getting a site on my signatures links would push that site up to the first page, even to number one position, in google just like that.
    No longer!
    Signature links now are just there to be ready for some member of the forum to say, think I will check that particular site.
    In other words, traffic.
    Which is abysmal from most forums!

    Now links in posts?
    Though a lot of forums are going no follow, they still have more value than a signature link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    A good point that you made about the niche forums. The signature links are more likely to have a higher ctr and deliver targeted traffic.
    Well, that's true but the power of signature links was the "ice on the cake" giving a boost to rank a few positions higher on search engines.

    I have tested the power of forum sponsor links and forum signature links in my niche for traffic, the sponsor links received a very low traffic, on the other side the forum signature links received much more traffic.

    I guess it is similar if we compare the organic traffic versus advertising traffic.

    Anyway that's just my experience I am sharing, perhaps some other members had something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Now links in posts?
    Though a lot of forums are going no follow, they still have more value than a signature link.
    I think they can do nofollow now LOL, the way things are working today and perhaps in the future will be no follow links, only links from social media networks and reciprocal links will reward or refer sites.

    The search engines will look like sophisticated pay directories for brand chains and ad sellers for big corporations, nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    I remember that Matt Cutts said a link is a link, apparently not anymore.
    That must have been a long time ago. The concept of a quality link has been around for at least 5 years and Google has been actively discounting the value of poor quality links for at least that long.

    The real problem is that is is getting harder and harder to obtain quality links.

    I find that forum signature links still have some value when the links are from a site in a similar industry. They don't appear to be very effective for unrelated industries. Links within posts are probably the most effective. It isn't hard for Google to figure out that signature links are artificial.

    All of the signature links in my forum posts are part of various tests that I run to monitor the effectiveness of links. The only one out of the current group that has been effective is the link to the tech site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    The concept of a quality link has been around for at least 5 years and Google has been actively discounting the value of poor quality links for at least that long.

    The real problem is that is is getting harder and harder to obtain quality links.
    It is very subjective to evaluate poor quality links besides the link farms, spam sites and reworked stolen contents including cloaking links.

    Google shot themselves in the foot. They considered that a link pointing to a site is a vote, from there you can have all kind of manipulations, because they open the doors to abuses. Year after year they not only eliminate the link farms and other spam link wheels, but also the major sources of link factories aka directory sites, directory of article sites, Press releases sites, forum link signatures, etc

    In between, I don't know if you have noticed but it looks like Google is eliminating any kind of indirect competitors. On the other hand, Google blocks the crawling access of Youtube and other videos platforms they own to their competitors Bing and Yahoo which is an handicap to compete.

    Nobody asked Google to abuse their power, unfortunately everyday it is more and more obvious.
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    Yeah, you are right. Google created the problem to begin with by starting to use links as a popularity vote. That became something that was easy to manipulate because they didn't set any rules. People will do what they are incentivised to do.

    Up until about 2004 or 2005 you could buy 50,000 site-wide links on a Jupiter-owned web property or Stanford University (yes, Stanford sold links) and be guaranteed a top 5 ranking. Lots of top ranking sites showed more than 100,000 backlinks in Google. Then Google wacked site-wide links and they have been pecking away at link quality since then.

    It is not difficult or subjective to identify and discount links from crappy directories, poor quality sites or sites in unrelated industries. Today, if a link looks natural, the site has reasonable quality, and is in a related industry or the page covers a similar topic, the link will likely count. Almost anything else might be discounted to some degree or entirely.

    Google is not the only search engine that does this. There are good reasons as to why most directory links only rarely show up in Yahoo.

    Remember this basic rule: "He who has the most gold makes the rules." It still applies today and especially to companies who are the innovators on the web. Google is a company that does not see themselves as bound by rules. They see themselves as blazing a path and thus they set their own rules--and the rules frequently change as they deem necessary.
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