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    Forum Link Siignatures

    I was recently on my Google webmaster tool and found that Google torched all my forum signature links

    Is it just me or Google just killed these links? I remember that Matt Cutts said a link is a link, apparently not anymore.

    Thanks Google
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    Forum links haven't been all that effective in years. They are more useful as a way of getting like minded people to your site if you participate on a forum in your niche. But, for SEO purposes, forum spam made forum links useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mafiamaster View Post
    Forum links haven't been all that effective in years. They are more useful as a way of getting like minded people to your site if you participate on a forum in your niche. But, for SEO purposes, forum spam made forum links useless.
    Forums link signatures are effective if related to your subject. In my case, I am not talking about webmaster forums but rather other forums I posted or sponsored in my niche that disappeared from my WMT control panel.

    I am not surprise that Google did that, they are going after everything that is not in their NEW monthly guideline.
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    Read my last post carefully!!!
    That was BEFORE GOOGLE!!!
    So there was NO secondary google traffic!
    Geesh, you only had yahoo and aol.


    When traffic was traffic.
    WHen traffic was GOOD traffic.
    When traffic actually stuck around and actually bought something.


    But then, you would have had to been on the internet back in the very damn early 1990's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Read my last post carefully!!!
    That was BEFORE GOOGLE!!!
    So there was NO secondary google traffic!
    Geesh, you only had yahoo and aol.


    When traffic was traffic.
    WHen traffic was GOOD traffic.
    When traffic actually stuck around and actually bought something.


    But then, you would have had to been on the internet back in the very damn early 1990's.
    At the time I used Yahoo and the results were pretty good. But that's when the directory model was still working.



    Yahoo in 1996

    Yahoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    I was recently on my Google webmaster tool and found that Google torched all my forum signature links

    Is it just me or Google just killed these links? I remember that Matt Cutts said a link is a link, apparently not anymore.
    A lot of forums have been adding the nofollow tag to signature links.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mafiamaster View Post
    Forum links haven't been all that effective in years. They are more useful as a way of getting like minded people to your site if you participate on a forum in your niche. But, for SEO purposes, forum spam made forum links useless.
    Signature links and profile links still have value. But forums have gotten so big and have millions of signatures. So, you only end up with what is equivalent to a grain of sand from a beach.

    A good point that you made about the niche forums. The signature links are more likely to have a higher ctr and deliver targeted traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    A good point that you made about the niche forums. The signature links are more likely to have a higher ctr and deliver targeted traffic.
    Well, that's true but the power of signature links was the "ice on the cake" giving a boost to rank a few positions higher on search engines.

    I have tested the power of forum sponsor links and forum signature links in my niche for traffic, the sponsor links received a very low traffic, on the other side the forum signature links received much more traffic.

    I guess it is similar if we compare the organic traffic versus advertising traffic.

    Anyway that's just my experience I am sharing, perhaps some other members had something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    Now links in posts?
    Though a lot of forums are going no follow, they still have more value than a signature link.
    I think they can do nofollow now LOL, the way things are working today and perhaps in the future will be no follow links, only links from social media networks and reciprocal links will reward or refer sites.

    The search engines will look like sophisticated pay directories for brand chains and ad sellers for big corporations, nothing more.
    Last edited by Franc Tireur; 9 July, 2011 at 00:29 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    I remember that Matt Cutts said a link is a link, apparently not anymore.
    That must have been a long time ago. The concept of a quality link has been around for at least 5 years and Google has been actively discounting the value of poor quality links for at least that long.

    The real problem is that is is getting harder and harder to obtain quality links.

    I find that forum signature links still have some value when the links are from a site in a similar industry. They don't appear to be very effective for unrelated industries. Links within posts are probably the most effective. It isn't hard for Google to figure out that signature links are artificial.

    All of the signature links in my forum posts are part of various tests that I run to monitor the effectiveness of links. The only one out of the current group that has been effective is the link to the tech site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    The concept of a quality link has been around for at least 5 years and Google has been actively discounting the value of poor quality links for at least that long.

    The real problem is that is is getting harder and harder to obtain quality links.
    It is very subjective to evaluate poor quality links besides the link farms, spam sites and reworked stolen contents including cloaking links.

    Google shot themselves in the foot. They considered that a link pointing to a site is a vote, from there you can have all kind of manipulations, because they open the doors to abuses. Year after year they not only eliminate the link farms and other spam link wheels, but also the major sources of link factories aka directory sites, directory of article sites, Press releases sites, forum link signatures, etc

    In between, I don't know if you have noticed but it looks like Google is eliminating any kind of indirect competitors. On the other hand, Google blocks the crawling access of Youtube and other videos platforms they own to their competitors Bing and Yahoo which is an handicap to compete.

    Nobody asked Google to abuse their power, unfortunately everyday it is more and more obvious.
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    Hey, maybe, just maybe, Google is pushing everyone to go back to what it was before they showed up.
    And that is: ADVERTISING!

    I remember those days when there were tons and tons of sites where one could advertise and get traffic from.
    I had several sites that were nothing but simple sites full of nothing but banners and text links.
    Made money selling space on those sites and everyone got traffic!

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