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    Google: More Guidance on Building High-Quality Sites

    Google posted more info about the 500 ranking algorithm changes they plan to make over the course of 2011.

    Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: More guidance on building high-quality sites
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    Google posted more info about the 500 ranking algorithm changes they plan to make over the course of 2011.

    Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: More guidance on building high-quality sites
    I have stopped reading the Google diaries about quality blah blah blah. If Google wants to take some pages, they take them, if they don't that's ok, I don't work for them, I work for my customers.
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    Hi,

    Looks like I'm out

    "Does the article describe both sides of a story?"

    How do you give both side to a celebrity bio???

    Would you recognize this site as an authoritative source when mentioned by name?

    I think think we all would like are site to have TOMA.

    This got me thinking How many sites can you name? I thought of about 10/12 fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    Google posted more info about the 500 ranking algorithm changes they plan to make over the course of 2011.

    Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: More guidance on building high-quality sites
    This one I don't understand:

    Does this article have an excessive amount of ads that distract from or interfere with the main content?

    What does the number of ads have to do with quality? Will a site get penalized for having in text ads?

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    I have stopped reading the Google diaries about quality blah blah blah. If Google wants to take some pages, they take them, if they don't that's ok, I don't work for them, I work for my customers.

    You're right. The article says 500 planned algorithm updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sami4u View Post
    Looks like I'm out

    "Does the article describe both sides of a story?"

    How do you give both side to a celebrity bio???

    Would you recognize this site as an authoritative source when mentioned by name?
    We will have to see how this plays out. I'm guessing that celebrity niche won't be affected as long as the content is well written and fresh. Another thing is that the idea is original to say that the article isn't "me too" that 500 sites have also written about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    Another thing is that the idea is original to say that the article isn't "me too" that 500 sites have also written about.
    That's another Google self aberration. People like to find what they are looking for in your speciality or theme and they don't want to waste their time looking for hours to find information scatter around the web. Imagine you find a good site and you get all information you are looking for on well written articles or descriptions on one site, you really don't care if some other sites did something similar.
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    I don't think that many of the Panda guidelines can be determined by an algorithm. Many of these can only be determined by something with human eyes--and the results would still be very subjective.


    Can an algorithm determine if the information can be trusted?

    Can an algorithm determine if the author knows the topic well?

    Can an algorithm determine if the page offers real value?

    Can an algorithm determine if an article contain insightful analysis or interesting information that is beyond obvious?

    Can an algorithm determine if both sides of a story are being told?
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    They can put as many new algorithms as they want, that's not going to solutionate all their problems. Look how many times in a short period they tweaked their main algorithm Panda 1, 2 or now 3, perhaps 4 and 5 lol

    Where I am laughing is when I see the same crap ranking high after their new algorithm supposed to fix it. Google always worked for quantity instead of quality, the rest is blah blah blah, only results count, period!

    Bing/Yahoo send to us customers, Google send us 10 times more traffic for a limited number of customers from organic search

    Bing is working on the right path, all I have to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    They can put as many new algorithms as they want, that's not going to solutionate all their problems. Look how many times in a short period they tweaked their main algorithm Panda 1, 2 or now 3, perhaps 4 and 5 lol
    So many algorithm changes run risks of collateral damage and opportunities as well.

    I find a nice Infographic here Google's collateral damage: SEO cat & mouse game [infographic] - Holy Kaw!

    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    Bing/Yahoo send to us customers, Google send us 10 times more traffic for a limited number of customers from organic search

    Bing is working on the right path, all I have to say.
    I'm finding quick a bit of spam on Bing/Yahoo as well. I'm guessing that for some niches the demographics from portal traffic translate into more buyers. There's also been a lot of noise that Live has been reverse engineering their results to reflect the Google results.

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    Again I will say this.
    I do not freaking care about search engines!
    Only webmasters who rely on, have been told they need google, who believe that without google they will go shoeless, worry about what google does day to day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    This one I don't understand:

    Does this article have an excessive amount of ads that distract from or interfere with the main content?

    What does the number of ads have to do with quality? Will a site get penalized for having in text ads?
    And then a Google search engineer named Moultano admitted that Google can't use this data in the algorithm -- because they have no system to collect this data. From Hacker News:

    Quote Originally Posted by moultano
    We don't make ranking changes to improve adsense revenue, and don't use it as a metric to evaluate ranking algorithms. We don't even have a mechanism to collect the data.
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