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    Google: Our new search strategy is to compute answers, not links

    Google’s new strategy for search is to provide you with answers, not just links, said the company’s executive charmain Eric Schmidt in an interview with Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher at the D9 conference today.
    We can literally compute the right answer,” said Schmidt, referencing advances in artificial intelligence technology.
    Instead of looking for links, he said, we’re at a point in technology where many answers to search queries can be computed, rather than simply returning a list of links from an index.
    Google: Our new search strategy is to compute answers, not links - Google

    I am curious to know how manipulative they are on the computed search queries, I guess a lot.

    I can imagine how it works: All Adwords advertiser corporations are ranking on the top positions for Adwords links, brand links, store links, shopping result links, google map links and organic search. Where as a creative entrepreneur are you ranking? Page 2+ too bad for you, chances are that you are not going to make it because you are not a brand chain.

    I think the day of banning google from my site is coming
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    'Be careful what you ask for -- you might get it.' he strategy to 'compute answers, not links' appears to be Google push-back to anti-trust investigations. The biggest anti-trust complaint is how Google ranks sites. So, Google could solve the complaint by not displaying a list of links. There's nothing to stop Google from getting rid of all free listings and replacing the results with paid inclusion, +1, computed answers, adwords, and all the other 'junk'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    The biggest anti-trust complaint is how Google ranks sites. So, Google could solve the complaint by not displaying a list of links. There's nothing to stop Google from getting rid of all free listings and replacing the results with paid inclusion, +1, computed answers, adwords, and all the other 'junk'.
    It would be at least more honest to say that google switched to advertise by all means the big corporations and corporation chains than lying about a quality guideline, rankings, algorithm fantasies, mickey videos on youtube and blah blah blah for the rest of us.




    Google has a history of challenging the law & building a business through wildcatting in a gray hat/black hat manner.
    • They repeatedly broke the law with their ebook scanning project. Their ebook store is already open in spite of a judge requiring them to rework their agreements.
    • They bought Youtube, a den of video piracy & then spent $100 million on legal bills after the fact. When they were competing with Youtube they suggested that they could force copyright holders to pay Google for lost ad revenues if they didn't give Google access to the premium content.
    • They sold ads against trademarks where it was generally viewed as illegal and awaited the court's decisions after the fact.
    • They tried doing an illegal search tie-up with Yahoo & only withdrew after they were warned that it would be challenged. They later slid through a similar deal with Yahoo Japan that was approved.
    • They "accidentally" collected personally identifiable information while getting router information & scanning streets (and we later learn via internal emails in court documents how important some of this "accidental" data collection was to them).
    • They pushed Buzz onto Gmail users and paid the fine.
    • Google torched UK finance comparison sites for buying links. Then Google bought one of the few they didn't torch (in spite of its spammy links). After getting flamed on an SEO blog they penalized that site, but then it was ranking again 2 weeks later *without* cleaning up any of the spammy links.
    • When the Panda update torched one of your sites Google AdSense was probably already paying someone else to steal it & outrank you. Google itself scrapes user reviews & then replaces the original source with Google Places pages. The only way to opt out of that Google scrape is to opt out of Google search traffic.
    • Google promotes open in others, but then with their own products it is all or nothing bundling: "we are using compatibility as a club to make them do things we want." - Google's Dan Morrill
    • For years Google recommended warez and keygens and serials to searchers, all while building up a stable of over 50,000 advertisers pedaling counterfeit goods. That only stopped when the US government applied pressure, and then Google painted themselves as the good guys for fighting piracy.
    • Google is reportedly about to launch their music service, once again without permission of the copyright holders they are abusing.
    Google SEO Advice: do as they say, or do as they do?

    Anti-trust complaint could be efficient if they do the same thing they did to Microsoft, but Google has many tights with politicians and there are a lot of lobbyists working for them.

    Google use people as sheeples to sell advertising to their cronies, after all they are practicing crony capitalism.
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    Frankly, the only issues among those you listed that I'm not fine with are their political connections, and maybe this collection of personally identifiable information (a lot of which was probably public anyway, even if unintentionally).

    Antitrust will help noone, but don't take my word for it. You'll see. Government is worse than Google. It is always worse.

    Also, reviews being "stolen" is an overstatement. You provide it publicly, and allow googlebot to scan it because you want them to give you a link. At best it's a screwed up position. If you want to be served by Google you have to obey their terms. The terms just suck, but they didn't steal anything. You can always just ban Google and see how that works out. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by memenode View Post
    Frankly, the only issues among those you listed that I'm not fine with are their political connections, and maybe this collection of personally identifiable information (a lot of which was probably public anyway, even if unintentionally).

    Antitrust will help noone, but don't take my word for it. You'll see. Government is worse than Google. It is always worse.

    Also, reviews being "stolen" is an overstatement. You provide it publicly, and allow googlebot to scan it because you want them to give you a link. At best it's a screwed up position. If you want to be served by Google you have to obey their terms. The terms just suck, but they didn't steal anything. You can always just ban Google and see how that works out. :P
    If you want to talk political, I don't support anarcho-capitalism at all. A state cannot function without a governement, period!.

    Now the laws of anti-trust exist for a reason, sure there are bad and good laws, bad and good regulations. If you think that there is no regulation at all in free market you are very wrong, because regulations are made to prevent corporations or people behaving dishonestly.
    Last edited by Franc Tireur; 27 June, 2011 at 16:05 PM.
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    I tried very hard not to get political, and now you drop this absolutist view on me. I guess after that "period!" I don't have anything more to say. There is a bazillion of things I could say on what you said afterwards...

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