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    Google’s Own PageRank Drops

    Yesterday, it was reported that Google had updated PageRank. People took to the forums to share their new PageRank numbers – many of which had increased.
    It appears, however, that Google’s own PageRank has gone down from a 10 to a 9. Make of this what you will, but it is quite interesting that the controller of all PageRank would devalue its own.
    Barry Schwartz at Search Engine Roundtable, who first reported on this, says, “Does it matter? No. But it is interesting, nevertheless.” He provides the following screen cap.

    In late 2009, Google removed PageRank from Webmaster Tools, but decided to keep it in the Google Toolbar. Google has basically said that people worry about PageRank way too much. “We’ve been telling people for a long time that they shouldn’t focus on PageRank so much; many site owners seem to think it’s the most important metric for them to track, which is simply not true,” said Google’s Susan Moskwa. “We removed it because we felt it was silly to tell people not to think about it, but then to show them the data, implying that they should look at it.”
    Yet they continue to leave it in Google Toolbar, and clearly many webmasters still feel like they should look at it.

    Regarding Google’s own lower PageRank, one forum member in BlackHatWorld writes, “It’s just that some agencies are lately doing investigations against Google, so it may be the reason.”


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    Perhaps there was a change in the damping factor for the Page Rank algorithm. Yahoo is PR9, MSN is PR8 but Facebook is PR10 which would make sense. Because, you would expect that FB would have more incoming links and it also uses the nofollow tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    Do you think it is ironic?
    Hi,

    Yes, even funny that their own system will cut them down. I wonder how soon it will be before the PR system is gone altogether?

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    It would be interesting to see Google removing their PR system, because if tomorrow they remove it, there will be no more virtual parasites (spammers) or manipulations by some industries or industries reaping off their customers.

    After all, the PR system is just an elistist way to divide and to descriminate websites.
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    It cost Google a lot of money for the exclusive rights to the PageRank patent. Throwing away PR is throwing away a major competitive advantage. Though there's a lot less noise about PR updates than there was a couple of years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    It cost Google a lot of money for the exclusive rights to the PageRank patent. Throwing away PR is throwing away a major competitive advantage. Though there's a lot less noise about PR updates than there was a couple of years ago.
    That's correct, much less noise since Google hammered the directories and pay links in general.
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    They could just hide it again, maybe?

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    Seems that Facebook is still a PR 10, I would have thought Google has more traffic than Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    That's correct, much less noise since Google hammered the directories and pay links in general.
    PageRank is a double edged sword for Google. PR was "make and break" for reciprocal links and directories.

    Webmasters still use PR as a quality factor. So, it's still important.

    Quote Originally Posted by aayati View Post
    Seems that Facebook is still a PR 10, I would have thought Google has more traffic than Facebook.
    Page Rank is based on inbound links and doesn't reflect traffic.

    SERP Rank uses additional factors including the following to rank pages:

    brand weighting
    authority
    trust
    local rank

    Quote Originally Posted by Shenron View Post
    They could just hide it again, maybe?
    There's still no PR toolbar for chrome.

    You would figure that Google would make one and allow it to "+1" without logging in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    PageRank is a double edged sword for Google. PR was "make and break" for reciprocal links and directories.

    Webmasters still use PR as a quality factor. So, it's still important.
    Many webmasters like me did not like the PR system because most webmasters did not really care what the high PR sites are about or what level of quality the high PR sites provides to their readers/customers, they just want the green as higher they can buy or get to point these links to their sites giving fake reputations based on the number of high PR pointed to the owner site.

    I believe that the Google PR system has been rotten for a long time.
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