The Pagerank Discussion Thread!

[Mr.Bill]

Someone needs to create a domain something to the effect of prlotto.com and have yearly calendar where people can purchase a $1 dollar buy in for guessing the next pr update day. Then the winner/s would get or split 90% of what the site made off selling tickets.

[GameOver]

Someone needs to create a domain something to the effect of prlotto.com and have yearly calendar where people can purchase a $1 dollar buy in for guessing the next pr update day. Then the winner/s would get or split 90% of what the site made off selling tickets.

The winner should get their website to PR10

[intelli]

@ tmongy, you said it right!
Its easy to get to higher ranks from lower ranks !! But it is difficult when you reach a higher rank like PR 6 and thinking of getting to PR7, PR8 etc...
Yup, PR update was there some 2-3 days ago rite? My blog went from PR 1 to PR 2 ..
LOL .. this time, most of ma friends' blog also - those of whose blog which wasn't promoted a bit also got good rank ...google gone mad ? LOL

[Loko]

"We crawl roughly in decreasing order of PageRank"

Checkout Matt Cutts Straight from Google slides 14-19 about PR, it explains a lot.

[intelli]

Suppose you are with a site with PR 5, with just 10 outbound links. And suppose that you are also with another site with PR 8 and 1000 outbound links. Then if you start a new site. Them I would suggest you that, you link to this new site from Pr5 site rather than the PR8 site (that's because PR 8 has a lot of outbound links -and thus it will have to share its PR among a lot of other sites - where as PR 5 site has only 5 outbound links)


It is better to avoid links from Link farms (I have it somewhere). So I'm asking - are the directories considered as link farms? (since it will surely link to thousands to sites) So, should we put our link in directories? Why or why not? Respond ...


Fact :- Total page rank of your site (I'm not talking about the pagerank of any individual page - but about the whole site) will increase with the number of pages in your site. So, write new content everyday - for it will increase the pagerank of your site One question though - should we link back to different pages of our site (like to the homepage, other imp pages etc) in each post? so that the PR of those pages increase? Can it do any good?


Suppose I have fours sub pages including homepage. Then what can you comment about the internal linking between the pages? How should it be done? Suppose homepage is A, other pages are B,C,D.
I usually does like this :-
Linking structure :-
A->B,A-C,A->D
B->A
C->A
D->A
That is I provide link from homepage to every new page. And then every new page will again link back to my homepage. What is the case with you? How do you do the internal linking?


Dangling links !! Dangling links are those links to pages - which have no outbound links. I'll explain with an example :-
Suppose there are pages A,B and C.
Suppose A links to B.
But if B has no outbound links, then the link from A->B is a dangling link - and thus is of no use.


Orphan pages !! These are those pages, which has no inbound links and thus are not yet indexed by google - if you are placing a link from this orphan page to other page, it won't be of any use - So, after you create a new page, try to add a link to it from social bookmarking sites etc.

Reciprocated links ? What are they? I saw people sharing links , I mean link exchanging. Will it affect the two blogs in any way? If blog A's homepage links to Blog B's homepage , then what would be the ultimate effect? Will it do any good or bad?

[webmaster]

I heard thereis a PR update!

[WebEvader]

I heard thereis a PR update!

Yea there has just been one... in the last week or so

[intelli]

Suppose you are with a site with PR 5, with just 10 outbound links. And suppose that you are also with another site with PR 8 and 1000 outbound links. Then if you start a new site. Them I would suggest you that, you link to this new site from Pr5 site rather than the PR8 site (that's because PR 8 has a lot of outbound links -and thus it will have to share its PR among a lot of other sites - where as PR 5 site has only 5 outbound links)


It is better to avoid links from Link farms (I have it somewhere). So I'm asking - are the directories considered as link farms? (since it will surely link to thousands to sites) So, should we put our link in directories? Why or why not? Respond ...


Fact :- Total page rank of your site (I'm not talking about the pagerank of any individual page - but about the whole site) will increase with the number of pages in your site. So, write new content everyday - for it will increase the pagerank of your site One question though - should we link back to different pages of our site (like to the homepage, other imp pages etc) in each post? so that the PR of those pages increase? Can it do any good?


Suppose I have fours sub pages including homepage. Then what can you comment about the internal linking between the pages? How should it be done? Suppose homepage is A, other pages are B,C,D.
I usually does like this :-
Linking structure :-
A->B,A-C,A->D
B->A
C->A
D->A
That is I provide link from homepage to every new page. And then every new page will again link back to my homepage. What is the case with you? How do you do the internal linking?


Dangling links !! Dangling links are those links to pages - which have no outbound links. I'll explain with an example :-
Suppose there are pages A,B and C.
Suppose A links to B.
But if B has no outbound links, then the link from A->B is a dangling link - and thus is of no use.


Orphan pages !! These are those pages, which has no inbound links and thus are not yet indexed by google - if you are placing a link from this orphan page to other page, it won't be of any use - So, after you create a new page, try to add a link to it from social bookmarking sites etc.

Reciprocated links ? What are they? I saw people sharing links , I mean link exchanging. Will it affect the two blogs in any way? If blog A's homepage links to Blog B's homepage , then what would be the ultimate effect? Will it do any good or bad?

Oops I had asked some questions above. Anyone with answers to them?

[Will.Spencer]

It is better to avoid links from Link farms (I have it somewhere). So I'm asking - are the directories considered as link farms? (since it will surely link to thousands to sites) So, should we put our link in directories? Why or why not?

Google has been penalizing general purpose directories pretty hard, but not every general purpose directory.

I don't think it's important if we consider directories as link spam; I think what Google thinks is important here. Right or wrong, Google has the power to enforce their views.

Still, even if Google penalizes half of them -- the other half remain unpenalized.

I stopped submitting my sites to general purpose directories awhile back, but I may start up again soon -- if I find a vendor with good enough pricing.

Fact :- Total page rank of your site (I'm not talking about the pagerank of any individual page - but about the whole site) will increase with the number of pages in your site. So, write new content everyday - for it will increase the pagerank of your site One question though - should we link back to different pages of our site (like to the homepage, other imp pages etc) in each post? so that the PR of those pages increase? Can it do any good?

PageRank sculpting is a bit of an art.

I almost always link back to my index page, purely for site usability purposes.

In general, it's good to link to yourself as much as possible -- to decrease your bounce rate.

I sometimes add rel="nofollow" on links to pages I know that I don't want to rank.

Suppose I have fours sub pages including homepage. Then what can you comment about the internal linking between the pages? How should it be done? Suppose homepage is A, other pages are B,C,D.
I usually does like this :-
Linking structure :-
A->B,A-C,A->D
B->A
C->A
D->A
That is I provide link from homepage to every new page. And then every new page will again link back to my homepage. What is the case with you? How do you do the internal linking?

That's pretty much what I do on my small sites. On my larger site, the home page may link to categories, which then link to pages. Sometimes the home page has to link to sections, which link to categories, which link to pages.

I link to relevant pages wherever possible.

Dangling links !! Dangling links are those links to pages - which have no outbound links. I'll explain with an example :-
Suppose there are pages A,B and C.
Suppose A links to B.
But if B has no outbound links, then the link from A->B is a dangling link - and thus is of no use.

It's still useful to Page B.

But, as almost all of my pages link back to the index page, I don't really have any dangling links.

Orphan pages !! These are those pages, which has no inbound links and thus are not yet indexed by google - if you are placing a link from this orphan page to other page, it won't be of any use - So, after you create a new page, try to add a link to it from social bookmarking sites etc.

I sometimes use these to place content on my sites that I don't want my "regular" visitors to see.

Reciprocated links ? What are they? I saw people sharing links , I mean link exchanging. Will it affect the two blogs in any way? If blog A's homepage links to Blog B's homepage , then what would be the ultimate effect? Will it do any good or bad?

Matt Cutts has stated that reciprocal links are easy to detect and devalue, but I have seen them have significant value.

I also like to trade three-way links whenever possible. That where I link to one of your sites and you link back to a different site of mine.

Of course, within that framework, I still only link to quality resources. That's very important to me.

Gaming Google is great fun, but I don't like to do things that are not good for my own site visitors.

[intelli]

@Will,

That was a wonderful post !!! Hats off to you.

One more question :-

Suppose that I create a new post in my Wordpress blog. And in the post, even if I don't link to any page (whether be it to mine, or to any other), there would be outbound link from the new page right? That's because on the side, there will be the categories section, with links to different categories !! Am I wrong?