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    Question about a Competitor and SERP Correlation

    I have a question for you that still unanswered.

    I had a competitor who represented 20% of my traffic, they were on my site every single day, they took some parts of my articles, revamped some on their farm links blog, directory articles, etc (Note that they didn't do that on their main site), took also some of design display concept, category titles and off course many terms from my product descriptions.

    Since I decided to go out of business and removed my site from internet, their SERP took a huge downfall and it seems like they are ranking nowhere on high traffic keyphrases/keywords.

    Today I am wondering if they connected somehow with any black hat tricks to my site.

    I know that's a tricky question, but the correlation make me think of a possible breach.

    Is anyone could suggest eventual theories that could have damaged my site at the time? Thank you.

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    If it was a WordPress site with an active RSS feed that displayed complete articles, it only takes about 5 or 6 lines of code to tap into an RSS feed and automatically display the articles on another site. They could then run it through a content scrambler or spinner. This is all easy to automate. 40 to 50 lines of code in a single script would do it all. A cron job or scheduled task could run the script at regular intervals.

    20% of your traffic from one competitor does seem suspicious. I would probably have blocked the IP addresses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    If it was a WordPress site with an active RSS feed that displayed complete articles, it only takes about 5 or 6 lines of code to tap into an RSS feed and automatically display the articles on another site. They could then run it through a content scrambler or spinner. This is all easy to automate. 40 to 50 lines of code in a single script would do it all. A cron job or scheduled task could run the script at regular intervals.

    20% of your traffic from one competitor does seem suspicious. I would probably have blocked the IP addresses.
    It wasn't a wordpress site, but one of their black hat site was made on wordpress, full of tags that google indexed.

    I couldn't block their IPs, because their ISP used dynamic IP, so it would have been endless.

    Yes 20% from the same location, same Island, I guess either they were paranoiac or they were doing something unethical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Elements View Post
    I had a competitor who represented 20% of my traffic, they were on my site every single day, they took some parts of my articles, revamped some on their farm links blog, directory articles, etc (Note that they didn't do that on their main site), took also some of design display concept, category titles and off course many terms from my product descriptions.

    Since I decided to go out of business and removed my site from internet, their SERP took a huge downfall and it seems like they are ranking nowhere on high traffic keyphrases/keywords.

    Today I am wondering if they connected somehow with any black hat tricks to my site.

    Is anyone could suggest eventual theories that could have damaged my site at the time? Thank you.
    This article discusses how it is possible for competitors to “hijack” listings by duplicating pages.

    The way this seems to work is that Google’s duplicate content system feels that the new URL is the more important page and thus replaces the original page with the more important page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    This article discusses how it is possible for competitors to “hijack” listings by duplicating pages.
    Thank you Bogart, I don't recall how many times google not only screw up but also do not take care of the problems. I had some issue mentioned in the article which force me to waste my time and fill out DMCA, the problem is that you don't always see the infringement. Frankly you are not going to check every single article every few days when you have hundreds on your site and google know that.

    They never gave a damn about the content infringement and most DMCA are rushed. Look at what they did just the author snippet for media in more than 12 years!

    Google is becoming a garbage search engine forcing people to swallow their ads.

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    it almost seems that when it comes to something like this, you would have to try to sue them in the court system because it is infringement and get a court order to google to block their website. Of course there is nothing to stop them from creating a brand new site and doing it again.

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