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  1. #11
    Even the original $93 million estimate is way out of line. I have run projects that built major web sites with bleeding edge features that did not cost 2% of that. If this was a private project, it was at most a $10 to $20 million project.

    There needs to be an investigation to determine how much of the $634 million was funneled to Obama backers. I would not be surprised to find that no one has an accounting of where the money went and how it was spent. Anyone care to bet against that?
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    Even the original $93 million estimate is way out of line. I have run projects that built major web sites with bleeding edge features that did not cost 2% of that. If this was a private project, it was at most a $10 to $20 million project.

    There needs to be an investigation to determine how much of the $634 million was funneled to Obama backers. I would not be surprised to find that no one has an accounting of where the money went and how it was spent. Anyone care to bet against that?
    When I read it, I thought $634 million was excessive.

    They summarized the spending here:
    USASpending.gov
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Franc Tireur View Post
    When I read it, I thought $634 million was excessive.
    I don't think there has ever been a non-government IT project that cost anywhere near $93 million, let alone $634 million. What the heck. Taxpayers have lots of money they have not yet found a way to piss away. If this was a private sector project, dozens of people would be fired and the company would never do business with those contractors again. FYI. Historically, 60% of all major IT projects fail, even in the private sector.

    Quote Originally Posted by Franc Tireur View Post
    They summarized the spending here:
    USASpending.gov
    Unfortunately, that doesn't detail how the money was spent. It just tells us who the checks were written to.

    It is no surprise that the IRS is in charge of the project and it failed. The IRS has a long history of failed IT projects costing tens of millions of dollars going back to the 1980s.

    According to Fox, the woman in charge of the project at the IRS is the same gal that was caught illegally funneling confidential taxpayer information to the White House.

    Dr. Ben Carson is pushing this quote:

    Socialized medicine is the keystone of the arch to the Socialist State. - Vladimir Lenin
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  4. #14
    ObamaCare rates trigger more sticker shock

    Andy Mangione, who lives in Louisville, Ky. with his wife Amy and their two boys, is doing the same thing millions of people are doing -- trying to figure out how much his insurance will cost under ObamaCare. Before the exchanges opened, his insurance company said his rates would soar. But now that there are subsidies, he's been trying for days to find out how much he would get.
    "To logically compare plans, I've been calling them every day since October 1st," says Mangione, "several times a day on some occasions. Sometimes enduring 45, 50 minute holds, half an hour holds."
    Although Kentucky officials were unable to give him a firm number on his subsidy because of repeated IT problems, they did refer him to a Kaiser Family Foundation site, which suggests his subsidy will be $414 a month -- on a premium of $868.
    "What I'm concerned about is our doctor visits, our emergency room visits, and what I'm paying in my premium," says Mangione.
    The problem is the plan closest to what he has now will mean a 24 percent increase over his current payment-- after subsidies.
    And his co-pay for emergency room visits almost tripled -- from $125 to $350 -- an important factor for a family with two young boys.
    "They're climbing trees, they're falling out of trees. They're running around falling off their bike, they're very active. They're not unlike any other 8 and 10 year old boys," their dad says.
    The Mangiones found one plan with smaller premiums, but their doctor was out of network, ultimately making it more expensive for them.
    They're not the only ones with sticker shock.
    Members of Congress say constituents have been complaining, as they recently described some of their mail.
    Rep. John Duncan, R-Tenn., read from one constituent who said "I remember our president saying the new health care bill will reduce costs. I have my health care renewal forms, and the premium has increased about 15 percent, a $700 deductible is added, and my co-payment has increased."
    Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., also read letters from some of his constituents.
    "Mike from Hickory saw his premiums rise from $388 to $650. Phil from Forest City saw an increase, even though his policy didn't change, saw an increase of 42 percent."
    Some Fox viewers in Alabama also wrote in. Although they asked their names not be used, one couple about 60 years old sent detailed information about their rate increases, which will add 82 percent to their annual health care costs. At the same time, their deductibles increased by a third.
    For people on the individual market who have some catastrophic condition or illness, ObamaCare will bring benefits, but critics say their needs could be addressed at much lower costs to everyone else.
    As far as the rollout is concerned, Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said Friday that "the problems with the exchanges are systematic, profound and indisputable," and he called on Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to resign for what he called "gross incompetence."
    ObamaCare rates trigger more sticker shock | Fox News

    I always thought that an health care system should be made based on a non-profit organization, like it is in my country. It is the only way to reduce cost.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  5. #15
    Now we know how the Canadian company got the bid for the web site.

    Michelle O's Princeton classmate is exec at company that built Obamacare website | Mail Online
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin


  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    Now we know how the Canadian company got the bid for the web site.

    Michelle O's Princeton classmate is exec at company that built Obamacare website | Mail Online
    This prove one more time that Republicrats are at work and their difference is almost unknowable .

    This meant the company could be assigned government contracts worth up to $4 billion until 2017 without having to bid publicly for them.
    The company was approved before Barack Obama was first inaugurated in 2009.

    Townes-Whitley reportedly joined CGI in May 2010.

    CGI was one of 16 companies qualified under the Bush administration to provide certain tech services to the federal government.
    Cronyism at its best...!
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  7. #17
    Data center glitch is latest problem in 'Obamacare' rollout

    A data center critical for allowing uninsured Americans to buy health coverage under President Barack Obama's healthcare law went down on Sunday, halting online enrollment for all 50 states in the latest problem to hit the program's troubled rollout. The data center operated by Verizon's Terremark experienced a connectivity issue that caused it to shut down, affecting the federal government's already problem-plagued online marketplace Healthcare.gov and similar sites operated by 14 states and the District of Columbia, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
    Obama administration and company officials could not say how long it would take to fix the connectivity problem.
    Separate technical problems that have stalled enrollment on Healthcare.gov since its launch on October 1 are at the heart of a new Republican effort to discredit the healthcare law, also known as Obamacare, largely through congressional investigations to determine what went wrong in building the costly and complicated implementation system.
    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is due to testify later this week before a House of Representatives committee, while government contractors work around the clock to improve the Healthcare.gov website.
    The outage that started in the early hours of Sunday caused the data center to lose network connectivity with the federal government's data services hub, an electronic traffic roundabout that links the online health insurance marketplaces with numerous federal agencies and can verify people's identity, citizenship, and other facts.
    Without the hub, consumers are unable to apply online for coverage or determine their eligibility for federal subsidies to help pay for insurance premiums. On Saturday, Sebelius praised the hub's ability to perform complex calculations in quick time as an example of a successful segment of the system.
    HHS spokeswoman Joanne Peters said Sebelius spoke with Verizon's chief executive officer on Sunday afternoon to discuss the situation: "They committed to fixing the problem as soon as possible."
    The outage was affecting enrollment in all 50 states, as well as Terremark customers not connected with the marketplaces, according to the HHS spokeswoman. She said the data center's network connectivity went down during planned maintenance to replace a failed networking component.
    A spokesman for Verizon said the problem would be fixed "as soon as possible."
    "Our engineers have been working with HHS and other technology companies to identify and address the root cause of the issue," Verizon spokesman Jeff Nelson said.
    The administration has expressed confidence it can fix underlying problems with Healthcare.gov by early December, in time for people to meet a December 15 deadline to enroll in new health plans to receive benefits on January 1. Further delays would jeopardize its ability to enroll as many as 7 million Americans for coverage during Obamacare's first year.
    Sebelius, who faces Republican calls for her resignation, will be grilled about her role in the Obamacare rollout on Wednesday before the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
    Contractors have already blamed the administration for not conducting enough vital system-wide testing and for a last-minute design change requiring online visitors to set up accounts before window-shopping for insurance. The change is widely blamed for creating early bottlenecks as millions of people flooded the website.
    Health officials in Connecticut, one of the 14 states that constructed their own marketplaces, were the first to report on Sunday that potential customers would not be able to complete the sign-up process for some services but could create accounts and search for pricing comparisons.
    The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the HHS agency responsible for the federal system, told Connecticut officials about the outage and gave no indication of when the data services hub would be functioning again, said a spokeswoman for Access Health CT, the Connecticut exchange.
    Data center glitch is latest problem in 'Obamacare' rollout

    Wow, when this system will work? never?
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  8. #18
    Hi,

    This whole Obamacare is crap IMO. I know people who had 40+ hours a week jobs that are now cut down to 29 hours because of it. The average person has a hard enough time working for min wage at 40 hours. Now being cut to 29. I don't see how this is helping anyone.

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  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Sami4u View Post
    Hi,

    This whole Obamacare is crap IMO. I know people who had 40+ hours a week jobs that are now cut down to 29 hours because of it. The average person has a hard enough time working for min wage at 40 hours. Now being cut to 29. I don't see how this is helping anyone.

    Sami
    You are right Sami, they are implementing a universal welfare state and collective bargaining schemes within the framework of an European style of capitalist economy. The problem is that we aren't in a social democracy schema anymore, but instead in a globalism economic schema where there is no room for a welfare state, so it can't work without heavy consequences.

    The NWO is the dictatorship by the bankers via economic controlled chaos across the world, and particularly the 1% ~ 5% most wealthy who own the banking system, the corporate giants, and politicians (aristocrats or oligarchs) against their own people.

    It is a class war in their respective countries! (inferior class of the population pay for the top class mismanagement, reckless investments, frauds, deficits and the taxation weaponry is there to divest the people). For example, see Europe and it could happen here.

    So behind the robin woods, some of us (The Sleepers have Awakened ) will see the wolves packs!
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

    Voltaire


  10. #20
    Story: a nephew of ours actually used the obamacare site and actually got insurance.
    He was so damn happy, because he is young and healthy, and it is only costing him $300 a month.
    But reality hit him when someone asked him, what are your deductibles?
    And did you see other companies and their prices for your age?
    So now he is a bit bummed out that being a good democrat, etc, and using the site to get insurance, he got smacked hard on the costs (he will not actually have to pay or get the insurance until January I believe he said) and the deductibles.
    Basically he will pay $300 and get nothing in return since his deductible is $5,000 per year (more than the premiums!).

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