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    Quote Originally Posted by bhartzer View Post
    If you're putting content on a hyphenated domain, then keep in mind that you're potentially giving traffic to the non-hyphenated domain. People may forget to put the hyphen in when they go directly to the domain.
    Quote Originally Posted by tetrapak View Post
    Why? (this is character wasting here.)
    Wouldn't the hyphenated domain still loose traffic to the non-hyphenated domain when people typed the 'non-hyphenated url' into Google?

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    Absolutely not. Check one of my hyphenated sites as reference: dubaimarina.com - Google Search

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrapak View Post
    Absolutely not. Check one of my hyphenated sites as reference: dubaimarina.com - Google Search
    In your case the non-hyphenated .com is a redirect and you have the stronger domain.

    I still think that it's better to have both the non-hyphenated version of the domain and redirect the non-hyphenated version if available.

    On the other hand, many of the non-hyphenated dot coms are parked by domainers asking a lot of money. So, it would be easier to get the available hyphenated version.

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    That's the point. Most domainers are living in the past, if it's not for setting up a brand, you don't need the non hyphenated version of the domain. In my case I could spend a couple of grand for the non hyphenated version and I would not be better off, so it makes no sense to buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrapak View Post
    That's the point. Most domainers are living in the past, if it's not for setting up a brand, you don't need the non hyphenated version of the domain.
    The domainers control most of the better available domains. But, most of their domains are parked and as such don't cause much competition in the search rankings. So, you could save yourself a lot of money in using the hyphenated version.

    However, there are two issues that I see: 1) Exact match bonus for non hyphenated .com/.net/.org - this would cause you to have one arm tied behind your back against competitors using EMD domains 2) Domainer sells domain - this could cause confusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by tetrapak View Post
    In my case I could spend a couple of grand for the non hyphenated version and I would not be better off, so it makes no sense to buy it.
    The nonhyphenatedversion is better hyphenated-version. I say buy both when available.

    In cases where you are already using hyphenated-version, it's better to stick with it. Doing a 301 redirect to the non hyphenated version will cause around a 30% loss in the flow of PR.

    Btw, I agree with you that the non hyphenated version won't give you benefit and wouldn't be worth the expense. I in the same boat as you on one of my domains where I built the site on the hyphenated version of the domain. I do own the non hyphenated version though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    However, there are two issues that I see: 1) Exact match bonus for non hyphenated .com/.net/.org - this would cause you to have one arm tied behind your back against competitors using EMD domains
    The hyphenated gets the same exact bonus as the non-hyphenated. It's another domainers myth I guess. You have the same words in your domain, they are just separated, which actually makes the meaning clearer. E.g.: Penisland (Pen-Island). We all know these

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    The exact match bonus only applies to non-hyphenated domains (in the testing that I've done) with the com/net/org tlds. Though, I believe that the hyphenated domain still gets a bonus for keywords in the domain.

    It's rare to see hyphenated domains ranking on competitive keywords and most of those are from the mid 2000s when the hyphenated domains were popular. So, the older hyphenated domain have had time to establish themselves. But, it's rare to see new sites ranking on the hyphenated domains.

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    A whole country (Germany) cannot be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrapak View Post
    A whole country (Germany) cannot be wrong.
    Interesting on how the Germans are buying up the hyphenated domains. I hypothesized that their thinking is that it's better to be on a hyphenated .com and the domains are easier to read for non-English speakers in the EU.

    However, I don't really see the hyphenated domains and other TLDs ranking as well as the EMDs. You would expect the IM industry to be buying these up if there were working well.

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    Searching on weight loss in G reveals some interesting variations of using the keywords in the domain name and directory url in the first page results. I suspect that the lack of hyphenated domain names is more about preferences of the buyers of domain names than anything else. Short domain names tend to be favored, so using a filler word in the domain rather than padding out the exact match keywords with dashes seems to be more popular.

    So a domain like: fast-weight-loss-tips.org seems to be less popular to register than say fastweightlosstipsguru.com

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