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    ow is this possible.. On page SEO cant be dead.
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    Well to bust your bubbles people....
    Matt Cutts anounces over-optimization penalty!

    Google’s Matt Cutts announced that Google is working on a search ranking penalty for sites that are “over-optimized” or “overly SEO’ed.” Matt announced this during a panel Search Engine Land’s Editor-In-Chief, Danny Sullivan and Microsoft’s Senior Product Marketing Manager of Bing at SXSW named Dear Google & Bing: Help Me Rank Better!. The audio for the session has been published where I learned that Google has been working on a new penalty that targets site’s that overly optimize for search engines for the past few months.


    I was just waiting for this to happen.
    All you seo obsessive people have been iced but good!

    Anyways go and check it out, and weep now or weep later.....
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    The over optimization penalty has been there for at least 5 or 6 years. It primarily targets sites using keyword stuffing in content, HTML title tags, heading tags, hidden text and alt attributes. It is funny that Matt Cutts denied it in 2009, but I remember him talking about it prior to that. In the 2009 video, he primarily focused on PageRank sculpting--which was always a bad idea--and did say that hidden text and other issues were a problem.

    That sounds like the Google denial that penalties exist (a few years ago) and was then referring to them as filters, but they do refer to Panda rank demotions and the above-the-fold ad issue as penalties.

    I suspect they will also be going after sites the bold keywords repeatedly throughout the text and other cheesy tactics that make it obvious the the page is SEO'd.

    Just focus on a topic and write original content and your pages should never get hit with a penalty.
    Last edited by TopDogger; 17 March, 2012 at 14:23 PM.
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    SEO isn't dead rather it continues to evolve as Google changes the algorithm. Google claims that it uses more than 200 ranking factors. Most likely, factors like search term in HTML title tag, header tags, strong tags etc only give a site a few ranking points. Though other issues like content quality, site architecture, and site speed are all factors that an SEO provider can improve.

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    Well, I don't think that onpage seo is dead even after updation of Google Panda onpage will strong with more quality, it means if you do unique and fresh onpage then Google will give you first priority in performance and ranking as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philbertabrwn View Post
    After the last panda update quality content and social media plays crucial role in the results. And both are all about the Off page SEO methods. So has on page SEO lost its importance as the crucial term in getting results? Is On Page SEO dead?
    On-page has its own advantage and social media has its own. Please do not mix both culture together, both have different perspective and usage.

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    Posting optimum is what works on site. Be it a blog or a static site, anything that's written and posted primarily for users work. With blog and CMS based sites, it just gets easier. Over optimization penalty is getting too much obessed with keywords and links. It was not about optimizing your page.

    I have nicely optimized websites that are totally unaffected from any to all updates and yet ranking with minimal link building efforts. And not all of them are blogs.
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    How can you say that,On page SEO is life line for every website/blogs.Now Google has just update new algo called penguin updates.In which they have clearly mention the importance of on page.They want fresh and unique content again, back-link from authenticate website/blogs,and portal should not be over optimized.

    Mod Note: As you just did a puppet show with some other IDs, this one follows them out the door.
    Clean up your act... or play elsewhere. We are lenient, not blind.
    Last edited by robjones; 16 May, 2012 at 16:52 PM.

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    No on page optimization is not dead after new algorithm change of google .cause google gives priority to h tags url keywords on url and site map and Important plece implementation for keywords .As my concern now it is more important to optimize on page rather then off page .For this you should continue the given process step by step .
    01.keywords on title
    02 keywords on meta tag
    03.well written meta description with keywords
    04.make bold and italic of your keywords
    05.Create xml site map ( very important)
    06.robots.txt
    07.put image ALT tag

    By the above imple mentation google calculate for which keyword the page is .Write unique article it is also a part op on page optimization .After the panda update google gives priority to this .

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    I kinda like iowadawg's attitude. I still think a little bit of on-page work is required, though in the case of blogs that is largely taken care of automatically.

    But people obsess and obsess about why they aren't ranking and then you go to their site, and there's no content on there to rank. It's like, why do you want to rank in the first place. Even if you were #1 for every keyword you wanted no one would bother staying on your site cos you havent written any content!.

    So whilst I don't advocate avoiding the on-page SEO altogether, I do agree with you that people need to stop wasting time trying to rank for every little thing when half the time a good blog post will rank well anyways (I wrote one recently regarding the whole google deindexing directories laugh-riot, that went to #3 for a bunch of terms about 30 minutes after I posted it --- no SEO required).

    I think useability and navigation are far more of a priority than the SEO aspects of a site

    Quote Originally Posted by iowadawg View Post
    I am still contrarian.
    All you webmasters who have bought into the game that you must always optimize your pages paid too damn much!

    Just post away.

    That is all I do on my blogs, is post.
    PERIOD.
    I do not take time, I do not obsess, I could care less.
    When it comes to is this page, is this post, optimized for seo, blah blah blah.

    Take my word for this people::::

    JUST FREAKING POST TO YOUR BLOG, PERIOD!

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