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    The Internet Must Go

    In 2012, I was dispatched to help the big ISPs to figure out how to sell their vision for a "faster," "cleaner" internet. Six months later I produced this report -- and leaked it to the world
    What they need is charging the corporations making money like google, facebook, etc NOT the users!

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    The video does reflect reality, but it is obviously a fake video.

    Net Neutrality is a bad idea for users. Several ISPs, such as Cox (my ISP) have already implemented tiered speeds and pricing. We already pay a premium price that goes up almost every year. They are letting that level choke. The speed varies greatly depending upon the number of users. They also have a faster tier for which they charge a higher price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    The video does reflect reality, but it is obviously a fake video.

    Net Neutrality is a bad idea for users. Several ISPs, such as Cox (my ISP) have already implemented tiered speeds and pricing. We already pay a premium price that goes up almost every year. They are letting that level choke. The speed varies greatly depending upon the number of users. They also have a faster tier for which they charge a higher price.
    Net neutrality is an abuse of power by the ISP. I was on Sprint/Earthlink before switching on Cox. Their products are expensive, and that's why I just take internet from them. I don't watch TV cable, and the telephone voip is cheaper by Vonage to get overseas unlimited phone calls.

    So Cox do not have competitive prices and they still have some technical issues with the hardware in the street.

    I guess if you pay attention to the video above, the big telecommunicating corporations do not compete, they just are specialized in their field which favor monopolist business. They do not make investments at the same pace compared to Europe and their prices are not competitive for the simple reason that there is no real competition.
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    ISPs like Cox are almost always cable monopolies. When we moved to Phoenix we had two choices for cable access: Cox or Cable America. My neighbors all said that Cox was horrible, so we chose Cable America. We had no problems for a couple of years until Cox bought Cable America. That is now our only choice for cable. The only other choice for Internet access is through the phone company, but that is a DSL connection that is much slower.

    The cable companies in other places I have lived were also monopolies. Monopolies have no reason to be efficient or to keep their pricing low.

    I don't trust anything that Cox does or says. They continually lie when you have a problem and have to call them. They threaten to bill you for the service call if their tech does not find anything wrong with their connection. Thus far every time I called it was their fault.

    Cox continually propaganda runs ads on cable that tell us that "Cox is #1 for customer service." It is easy to be #1 when there is no #2. I do not know anyone who would agree with their claims about great customer service.

    The real problem with Internet access is the monopolies we are forced to deal with. If there was any real competition, we would not be talking about Net Neutrality, which has nothing to do with keeping the net neutral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopDogger View Post
    The cable companies in other places I have lived were also monopolies. Monopolies have no reason to be efficient or to keep their pricing low.
    Well said, and we can always see the same pattern of centralized power behind every industry. The big losers are the consumers and really the sad part is that our elected politicians supposed to represent us are doing nothing about it.
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