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    Quote Originally Posted by A12Alex View Post
    To be perfectly honest your coming off as a hater for hand coding. I feel there is nothing better than seeing the results of a design that you made from scratch and by hand. Sure you may be able to / can do the same thing with Dreamweaver but I don't think it would feel the same in the long run.

    I've seen the difference between the output of Dreamweaver CS3 and CS4 and I can state that they have greatly improved there product, but I still would never use it(Well I would if I was made to by employer), why? Because I don't like the idea of paying for something that I can do my hand(And because I refuse to use pirated software... lol).



    I have to say that is quite a long time for a 5 page website... but how complex are we talking here? I'm guessing very?
    I guess if I look back I do come off as a hand written hater, but technically I am, because I hate having to spend extra time wasting just to say "LOLZ I WROTE THIS ALL BY HAND IN NOTEPAD, U N00BZ!!". I would rather have it done and over with so I can move onto something else that will make me money.

    I'm a PHP/MySQL developer so a lot of my work is done by hand repeatedly in code view on dreamweaver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A12Alex View Post
    I have to say that is quite a long time for a 5 page website... but how complex are we talking here? I'm guessing very?
    Not complex. I'm handling a few projects at the same time here.
    I can't just be focusing on 1 project a day.

    I don't just jump straight into coding/design.
    There's a lot of planning and sketches done on my sketchbook too.

    Most of my clients are small businesses in Singapore who know nuts about the internet.
    Some even type www.domainname.com at Yahoo search bar instead of entering keywords.

    So its better to handle each project with care and build up your relationship with them.
    You are not just merely a designer/developer.
    You are their consultant too.

    In fact, I wasn't even after a full time job.
    The agreement over the email and phone was for me to work on a project they need done.
    So I was taken back by the sudden criticism directed to me at that time.

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    If you are not a code monkey, Dreamweaver is probably the best tool to use. FrontPage has always been one of the absolute worst code generators ever released.

    I also hand code everything. If you know what you are doing, the code is much more efficient than code from WYSIWYG tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killswitch View Post
    I guess if I look back I do come off as a hand written hater, but technically I am, because I hate having to spend extra time wasting just to say "LOLZ I WROTE THIS ALL BY HAND IN NOTEPAD, U N00BZ!!". I would rather have it done and over with so I can move onto something else that will make me money.
    I guess you have a point... :/ But I'll stick with hand coding as it's what I've always done.
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    People have their own ways of doing work. So no problem.

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    If you're good quality with dreamweaver then I would say why not use it and if you're good quality with notepad++, etc then I would like better hand-coding.

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    lol people are digging up old graves. Anyway, as a coder, I do use dreamweaver. Why not hand-code with dreamweaver? you still code it all yourself, you have quick tag closing ability, you can write CSS much much more quicker, and it just saves your time so I would recommended it to PROFESSIONALS not people who use the WYSIWYG editor, because WYSINOTWYG

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    Whether you are a purist at heart or not, these programs could never antiquate someone who knows their stuff. To write the program to begin with takes a natural coder. You will always find however that it may be more convenient to use a web editor, but it always comes with its own hiccups as well.
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    I agree. Dreamweaver sucks at coding sometimes. I find myself correcting it by hand coding half the website to make it cleaner and more more sense.

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