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    what java can do?

    i will be studying webdesign for 2 weeks, its like a boot camp in our small city and
    they've been inviting in our local online community.

    although im not sure if really like it, photoshop and dreamweaver is all they've had to cover, java webserver and etc..

    i think i pretty know some of these but not good as im really still a newbie.
    what can java do that other programming language can't? can somebody tell please?

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    dyou mean we can still create site with java and its seo? unlike flash?

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    No, I didn't mean that. Though I'm not sure if it's possible to create pure SEO Java site, I meant, programs you can create using Java is also possible using other programming languages. If they cannot do the same, at-least similar task can be done.
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    I assume you are talking about Java and not JavaScript. They are two different languages developed by two different companies . Java was developed by Sun Microsystems. JavaScript was developed by Netscape.

    There is no advantage with using Java. Anything you can do with Java, you can do with PHP and other languages.

    At one time many web gurus thought Java was going to be the dominant web programming language, but it is slow and is a resource pig.

    Java works well for building internal (enterprise) corporate systems. IMHO, it is not a good choice for building web sites.

    If you look into the history of Java, the language was originally developed to be used as a home controller. It was supposed to power an electronic home. It failed at that.

    In the late 1990s, it was touted as the best programming language for the web. It failed at that.

    It finally found a home with enterprise systems. It works well for that.
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    thanks for the overview topdogger. what i do konw about java was its the pop up that sometimes ask us when we delete something like "are you sure you want to delete this file?" lol

    thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatthehell View Post
    thanks for the overview topdogger. what i do konw about java was its the pop up that sometimes ask us when we delete something like "are you sure you want to delete this file?" lol

    thanks for the info.
    No, that is not what you know about it Pop-ups and alert boxes are created with JavaScript, not Java.

    Java is a primarily a server-side language, which means it runs on a server just like PHP. JavaScript is primarily a client-side language, which means it runs in your browser.

    A lot of people get the two confused, but they are different languages that have different purposes.

    I think you know the difference. You are just trying to confuse the confused people even more.
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    clearly i know nothing still i'll put what you said im mind.
    javascript is somehow like firefox-flashplugin that works on the browser in order for those youtube videos and flash browser games to work. and java is like php and asp programing language making the site interactive. and are server side.

    our class will start this wednesday. thanks
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    Good discussion...
    From my experience, Java has grown up with regards to being used for control programming (I would think current use in underwater autonomous vehicle control makes up for the 1990's house debacle...)...

    For enterprise-level solutions, just like other languages, if you don't test, analyze, and retest, you will not be optimized for memory usage. Multi-threading and multi-process ops are less of an issue now than even 5 years ago with Java compare to other languages that continue to get bloated with the memory requirements for their runtimes, etc as we all get spoiled with machines that run 2-6 gb of RAM, 128+MB video cards, etc.

    For new programmers, object orientated programming in Java, VB, or C# is the direction I would use to start teaching someone how to think about programming. I learned on C, grew into C++ after suffering through LISP, Ada, and some assebly work, then when it took me 6 weeks of Java to be able to do what took a year to learn in C++ I was hooked.
    I was really hooked when I started doing Java network programming with 3D simulations...

    But, @topdogger, I do agree that Java really doesn't have much of a role in what most do on this forum which appears to be either:
    1 - CMS driven information sites for CPA or CPC
    2 - Proxies
    3 - Services relating to nr 1 or nr 2

    I mean, load up joomla, wordpress, etc, copy->paste the few javascripts from Google thatyou need, and don't sweat trying to code-hack java or javascript. If you're authoring for scratch and are new, you could make more money just writing content!
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    I agree. You sound like another old code monkey, like me. I started with assembler, Pascal, COBOL, business BASIC and other languages that are now pretty much obsolete.

    At one time Java was one of the only high level languages that could tie most of your software systems together and talk to your databases. Today, there are a range of languages that can do that. Java did look good to a lot of people in its early days and still has a strong niche today.

    I just think it is a bad choice for web development, and that is why it is only rarely used for web sites.
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