Loko (15 January, 2009)
I'm running myself into an early grave teaching English, they pay isn't great even though the job is very rewarding. Same thing with writing, it's great work that I enjoy, but I also have to keep working, there is not such thing as passive income.
So, I'm reading all the threads from you guys who run proxies and thinking maybe it's time to give this a go.
I already have a few domains doing nothing, some are dead sites, others are domains I bought with the intention of using, none of them are even remotely related to proxies but that seems to be a good thing doesn't it?
If I get myself some proxy hosting and upload a script I could be up and running in a few hours, but, instead of bashing my head against a brick wall I want an opinion or a hundred from people who are running proxies. Can I make a reasonable passive income from this? My idea of a reasonable passive income is about $1000 per month to begin with, it's a low amount but would let me work less on teaching an writing and allow me to write the book I always planned to get around to.
Is making money with proxies as easy as just setting it up?
Can anyone recommend a proxy host that accepts Paypal (netbuilder member)?
What ad programs explicitly allow proxies (don't want to get banned from AdSense)?
Any other advice (I'm not rich yet, and I don't want to become a statistic)?
Thanks everyone, Andy
Loko (15 January, 2009)
I am going to out on a limb and probably get some rocks thrown at me but my answer to the question is most likely "no" you will not be able to earn 1k a month out the gate.
Reason: Far too much competition these days sites are getting blocked by there largest revenue source schools faster. Also there are hardly any good locations left to promote your sites.
By lack of site I am referring to the fact myspace, yahoo and google groups used to be fantastic ways of promoting your site. However these sites are no filled with other proxy owners so your promoting your site to other webmasters and not the right end user. Myspace is semi ok way if you have a large enough list of friends ie. 20k+
Some webmasters offer promotions via email to lists of 50k+ however I dont see any proxy having that type of email list of only proxy users and not webmasters. Proxy 0rg is garbage for promoting these days roughly 1 out of 6 sites in there list are actually a working proxy site.
What does it mean now if you cant spread the word fast enough about your site? Well at the slow trickle of traffic you get from most proxy lists you cant get the word out fast enough and you will be blocked by filtering companies within 2-4 weeks. Once upon a time you could have promoted and seen upwards of 2-3k users a day of english speaking traffic giving the high earning people are still searching for in the proxy gold rush.
The market is very saturated some proxy owners are running 75+ proxy sites and just making around 1k a month. The site that make me the most is my 2 year old proxy site which has established its self. My new ones cant come close to what it makes.
So out the gate I stay with my answer of no unless you can launch 50+ sites and get 1k+ visitors to each one. Many of these proxy owners are still complaining about making only .25-.50 cents a day of a proxy and not evening make back what they have spent to promote them.
Can anyone recommend a proxy host that accepts Paypal (netbuilder member)? I dont know about share proxy hosts or vps but FDCservers takes paypal on dedicated servers
What ad programs explicitly allow proxies (don't want to get banned from AdSense)? Adsense on the main page, Proxified pages can run Adbrite,Adtoll,GI,Adversal
Here is another example of what I mean currently a proxy network of 32 sites is selling on Sitepoint the owner is reporting $500 a month steady. This network is over a year old and his main site the proxy list or network page since its only his sites on it is ranked on the first page of google for the term "proxy" tons of traffic from that keyword word doesnt seem like it converting for him.
An option to get the 1k a month is to pick up a couple established networks with a steady income. I dont see them being sold for less then 8 months earnings though. So your investment would be high not much room to improve the income on them making the return of your investment not worth it.
If you are writer I would think you would far better creating a blog or become a ghost writer not a passive income but if you enjoy it then could be an option
I agree with Mr Bill here - I was in the proxy market for about 1 and a half years in total and my best ever day was $100 and that was towards the end of my journey. I don't run any proxies anymore and these days I think it would be a waste of time.
You're better to build up something else like a content site or promoting an affiliate offer.
I have one dedicated available for proxies if anyone is interested.
Programmer, web developer and entrepreneur.
I left the proxy market over a year ago. At that point, my proxies had gone from earning xx/day to pennies in a short period. The market is oversubscribed, advertisers are more savvy to the low quality traffic proxies attract and you run the risk of being terminated from PPC programs and hosting companies (not to mention potential legal issues, depending on your location and users.) The disadvantages far outweigh the gains. Here is a little bit of free advice courtesy of yours truly: Do something you enjoy instead of following the faint whiff of distant pennies.
Thanks everyone for your opinions, and thoughtful replies.
I think I'll give proxy sites a miss and focus on finding other niches to develop my passive income stream, I guess it's back to the drawing board, maybe I can buy a few indexed niche sites.